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Can Man's Actions Effect the Planet and the Climate?

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This weekend Chief Blue Thunder LeBeau will be lead a ceremony in Georgia to end the drought and heal the Earth.

He says this ceremony will heal "the holes in the cuts and seal the electromagnetic energy that is seeping from the Earth's crust," and that "will bring the water and rain back."

If a consensus believes this will work, then will this Shoshone Indian be successful in fixing the electromagnetic energy of the Earth?

Can man change the climate of the planet?

Should we have more Native Americans lead more Medicine Wheel Ceremonies to end global warming?

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  1. It's really tough to change the climate, but we've accomplished it.  Causing more solar heat to be held in by emitting greenhouse gases is by far the most effective way.  In a perverse way, it's genius.

    Medicine men?  No way.


  2. Ceremonies have gone out of fashion with the scientific community.  Mind you psychic healing was very much in fashion in the 1960's and 1970's with a number of researchers making careers out of studying the phenomenum.

    In his glory days, Leonard Nimoy was the public face of pseudoscience and he could have put together a really good TV special about the psychic healing powers of Native Americans.  These days of course, he sticks to Star Treck, the Simpsons and Futurama.

    The fact that some researchers take something seriously doesn't necessarily mean that it should be taken seriously and to answer your question, things don't work just because enough people believe in them.

  3. We need to become more humane towards each other. The planet will recover,  only humans can change the moral climate.

  4. it is not a matter of if it can it already has.

  5. "Universal protocols need to be understood. Universal laws of how the earth works need to be reflected upon by all nations of the world.

    Those that do not come back into Universal Law in using the right thought forms and speaking the Spoken Truth will come under attack by those energies of their own making in thought forms and their actions. Cause has an effect, either positive or negative, one or the other it will prevail, light or darkness we have two choices. What is your choice?"

    http://www.crawford2000.co.uk/bluethunde...

    From LeBeau's "Teton Rainbows" website:

    "Supporting indigenous protocols bring clarity to the quantity of the cleanliness of the Earth's soil, wind-oxygen, importance of fire and waters-life force for all of creation.  Interpreting how we can give service in education for the joy and happiness of cultures working together for peace and harmony on environmental wisdom's and knowledge's for the future.  This work is to remind us, while educating humanity on who we are and why we are and what we are to Mother Earth during these changing times we are in now and where we are headed."

    This isn't about concensus.  It's about reconnecting with a spiritual aspect of healing, it's about education.  Burning white sage and chanting gets some publicity for the group and for the greater issue at hand, and reminds us of where we were as a world just a few short centuries ago.

    Last link was found on LeBeau's website and is rather interesting, I think.

    Ben O: Why the salvo at Nimoy?  Leonard and Susan Bay-Nimoy are active supporters of the arts. They are president and vice president, respectively, of the Leonard and Susan Bay-Nimoy Family Foundation, founded in 2003 to provide funding for educational and arts programs. He also donated sustantially to the recent upgrade of the Griffith Park Observatory in Los Angeles.  And that's just what I know about.

  6. We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.  ~Native American Proverb

    "A living planet is a much more complex metaphor for deity than just a bigger father with a bigger fist.  If an omniscient, all-powerful Dad ignores your prayers, it's taken personally.  Hear only silence long enough, and you start wondering about his power.  His fairness.  His very existence.  But if a world mother doesn't reply, Her excuse is simple.  She never claimed conceited omnipotence.  She has countless others clinging to her apron strings, including myriad species unable to speak for themselves.  To Her elder offspring She says - go raid the fridge.  Go play outside.  Go get a job.  Or, better yet, lend me a hand.  I have no time for idle whining."  ~David Brin

    http://www.quotegarden.com/earth-day.htm...

  7. So the greens are resorting to witchcraft now.

    Bugger science, eh? Figures.

  8. Work or not, at least he has a positive attitude.

  9. so you mean you believe in those ceremonies? haha. well i do believe man can change climate but not with those ceremonies. man can even make artificial rain. man can do it.

    EDIT

    ok, you have some point.

  10. If man's actions include a spiritual quest to live more in harmony with the planet (superstitious or not) then yes.  The simple fact of accepting that we are part of nature can begin the healing.

    On a simple technical and scientific level, we are already affecting the planet and the climate.  In fact, we have a massive effect, on a planetary scale, every minute of every day.

    We have effects of chemical pollution, biological pollution, alien species invasion, climate change, habitat destruction, water resource destruction and not to mention direct human harvesting of species, which is using an estimated 40% of incident solar energy and 40% of land surface.  How many concurrent global assaults can the ecosystem bear?

    Global Warming is symptom of the overall problem, and in the first instance it’s a case of guilt by association.  Even in the absence of a smoking gun, circumstantial evidence is admissible, and the case is strong indeed.  

    With our current state of knowledge our attempts to engineer the planet amount to a giant uncontrolled global experiment.

    I agree with you on one point, the eventual effects of all this are unknowable with our current state of knowledge.

    Would you say that this gives humanity license to change things at will?

    Or would it be more prudent to wait and perhaps for example apply the great law of the Iroquois –

    “In our every deliberation we must consider the impact on the next seven generations”.

  11. Probably not through a ceremony in Georgia (I'm pretty sure there's no scientific consensus claiming that will work), but it certainly appears that adding 300+ billion tons of CO2 to the atmosphere over a 250 year period of time, does have an effect.

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