Can a 5'6" well trained marine down one of those 6'5" big *** bouncers...?

Question

...in a street fight. Just wondering how much does size matter

Answer 1

it all depends...other than size, does the bouncer has anything else going for him..??

Overall, hand to hand isn't trained enough to marines other than a basic level...the MCMAP program is rather limited when it comes to hand to hand combat military/special forces training around the world...the Israeli special forces training Krav maga or the Indonesian/Philippene special forces Pekiti tersia kali are much more devistating systems compaired to anything in the MCMAP program. Also, the German special forces and or anti terrorism unit's use of Wing Chun blows most of the material in the MCMAP program out of the waer just because they drill and teach hand to hand combat as something to rely on and thus makes it a priority as well as a very large part of the constant training and curriculum...not just a small part of a huge machine...therefore, I'd have to go with another country's special forces against said bouncer...

Just my opinion of course...

Answer 2

It'd be an interesting match to watch. The MCMAP is taught to instill the warrior instinct into the marines, and although does teach combat, that isn't it's primary objective. Furthermore, their hand-to-hand combat training is only a small portion of their training, (no more than 5% i would presume).

Bouncers, on the other hand; it's their job to take down people of all sizes who try to use force against them. For example, I learn BJJ from a bouncer, so he's a bouncer and a BJJ Black Belt, so i would have no doubt he'd take down the marine. If the bouncer has no training and is just there for brute force, then the marine has a possibility. On the whole, I would put my money on the bouncer.

On the topic of whether size matters, it does make it easier if you're bigger than your opponent, but many martial arts pride themselves on their ability to take down larger opponents and manipulate their mass against them. Skill will overcome size.

Answer 3

it matters...why else would sports have weight divisions?

Answer 4

If said Marine trained in Karate in Okinawa, and applied his military discipline to the training, then yeah, especially if he was a sargeant.

However a kid fresh out of basic, not likely.

Usually though, spec ops guys tend to be much better fighters than standard military units, so the Marine in question would have to be one of those recon guys.  Its a "mind" thing; spec ops units are trained to shut down, on will power, their pain receptors, or rather to become highly resistant to pain.

That means that in a fight if you tried using pain inflicting tactics, against a spec ops guy from anywhere in the world, be they Spetznaz, be they Israeli commandos, or be they SEALS, the only way to stop them is with severe trauma or an outright concusion.  If they feel no pain, then you have to actively work to disable the machine, because if you base your fighting tactics on inflicting pain it just won't work.

Ultimately though, neither bouncer, nor Marine, would stand much of a chance against a Shaolin monk.  Especially one from 400 years ago.

Answer 5

In a street fight anything goes right?

As a marine, I don't see myself trying to down one of those big***bouncers unless my life depended on it.  In the hypothetical and very unlikely scenario where my life depended on street-fighting a 6'5 bouncer I would pick up the the heaviest thing I could wield and proceed to preserve life and limb assuming I wasn't already legally armed in which case the large majority life-threatening bouncers won't stand a chance against an armed marine.