Can any muslim say Abu Bakr & Umar were Iblees?(Naozobillah)?

Question

Who ever says that does he stay in the fold of islam?

Answer 1

No , Muslim can't say that.

Who ever says that does he stay in the fold of Islam?  NO.

Answer 2

Never.

Answer 3

NO , we muslims love them

only anti-Islam people like sara , and grave worshipers(Rafidah) say they r worst than iblees (la)him self  

Answer 4

No they can't. But the problem, with me, is when people want to put Muawiya and Yazid, in the same class as, Umar (ra) and Abu Baker (ra).

Edit: You can scream and shout, Taqiyya as much as you want, i do not care, the fact remains is the people that say Muawiya and yazid are (princes), are hypocrites. If you do not know your history i suggest you start learning.

Answer 5

Only Shaitan will say such a thing

Answer 6

Astaghfearullah!! No never!!

do s**+'a people think that they are better then Ali(ra) or what?

Ali(ra) himself accepted Abu bakr Saddiq(ra) and Omar(ra)!!

i don't know why s**+'a don't accept them!!

Answer 7

No you can't because they weren't but you don't have to like them. I personally don't like them nor hate them. I just don't bother about them...as there is no need to waste my energy on such a silly matter.

Bless:)

Edit:

I am going to ge many thumbs down here but I have to say the truth.

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Answer 8

shiit says so.

They even curse mothers of believers. This is religion of curse.

Answer 9

No, they definitely don't stay in the fold of Islam.

It's just a hoax to get rid of the original Isalm. They can condemn Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Ayesha (R.A). That automatically leads to rejecting the huge number of hadiths which have been narrated by them. And many of the Quranic ayahs too. As they say that Ayesha (R.A) lost 10 parts of the Quran due to her carelessness.

That's not possible. She (R.A) was a hafiza of the Quran. And Allah has mentioned it in the Quran: "We have sent this Zikr, and We r it's Protectors".

Morever, even if she (R.A) had lost them, Allah can see everything. Why didn't He, the Protector of the Quran re-send those ayahs again? And besides, Muhammad (P.B.U.H) had memorized the whole Quran, and revised it with the angel Gabriel twice in His last year. Why didn't He (P.B.U.H) replace it? Excuses!

To check out the ugliest face of this sect, check this out:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

It's unbelievable!

Answer 10

nop

no Muslim would say that.

and no, whoever says that is automatically putting himself out of Islam, why?

because its the same as doubting the judgment of the Prophet in his choices, and therefore questioning the will of God, because we know that the Prophet dint do anything from himself, he didn't move without divine revelation (wahhy)

@Sara

that was not the question !!!! duhh

you cant even answer a question as simple as this?

Answer 11

No never Only Raafidha(shias) do and they are not Muslims anyway so No Muslim will say so!

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The Creed of s**+'a from Their Own Sources:

Sahaabah (companions)

1.) They say all Sahabah (R.A) companions except 3 left Islaam after demise of Nabi .

2.) They say Abu Bakr(R.A) Umar(R.A) and Uthmaan (R.A) robbed Ali(R.A) of his position of being Khalif.

3.) They say Umar(R.A) was a 'Original Kaafir' and 'Zindiq'-renegrade.

4.) "Abu Huraira (R.A) was one of the fuquaha, but god knows what judement he falsified for Muaw'iyya and others like him, and what damage He inflicted upon Islaam."

5.) They say Abu Huraira (R.A) used to fabricate Ahadith.

6.) They say Muawiyya (R.A) poisoined Hassan(R.A).

7.) They say Muawiya (R.A) was a tyrant opressive ruler.

8.) They say Qazi Shurray (R.A) used to issue judicial pronouncement in favour of the ruling party. He was a sinful wretch occupying position of Judge.

9.) One should dissociate with the 4 idols: Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthmaan, Muawiyya and 4 women Ayesha, Hafsa, Harid, Umm-al-Hakam.

10.)One should curse the above after each prayer.

11.) Pharoah and Hamaan refer here to Abu Bakr and Umar.

References:

(1.) Anwaar - No'maan Niyyah - P245. Vol 2. Nimatullah Jafaari./ Furu Kafi, Kitaabul Raudah :15 - Mullah Muhammad bin Yaqoob Kulaini Vol 3 P115/ Usul -e-Kafi Vol 2, P 246 Rijaal Kashsi P504. (2.) Al- Ihtijaaj - Tibrasi 83, 84./Haqqul Yaqeen, P 157. (3.) Haqqul Yaqeen , 551/Kashful Asraar P119. (4.) P 143 - Islam goverment. (5.) Islaamic Goverment (6.) Al-Anwaar un Nomaniyyah - Vol 2. P88-87 Jazaari.(7.) Ibid. (8.) P81, Isl/ gov. (9.) Haqqul Yaqeen- Vol. 2 P519/ Furru Kaafi P342 Vol 3/ Jilaa - ul- Uyoom -P45 - 46/ Hayaatul Quluub P 375. (10.) Ainul Hayaa P559. (11.) Haqqul Yaqeen P342.

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14.) Abu Bakr and Umar are Kaafirs

15.) Abu Bakr is calf on Bani Israel.

16.) What did the Zuleikha of Makkah, Bibi Ayesha have, that the 50 year old Nabi got moved to her.

17.) Nabi accepted (in marriage) an uncouth person such as Hafsa. Not withsatanding the fact that she was a widow and facially deformed.

18.) Imaan refers to Ameerul- Mu'mineen- Alli Kufr refers to Abu Bakr fisq(weakness) refers To Umar isyaan(disobedient) Uthmaan in Surah Hujuraat.

19.) Umar is an illegeitimate child.

20.) Abu Bakr and Umar are worse than Shaithaan and they are dwellers of Jahannam.

21.) "When I entre Makkah and Madinah as the conqueror, my first duty will be to go to the grave of Huzoor and exhume the bodies of the two idols."

22.)"We shia's know the three Sahabah's(Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthmaan) as being void of Imaan"

References:

(14.) Haqqul Yaqeen - P552. (15.) Haqqul Yaqeen - Tafseer Qummi P160. (16.) Haqeeat Fiqh Hanafi P64 /Ghulaam Hussain Naqui.(17.) Ibid P124.(18.) Usul-e- Kafi P229. Vol 2.(19.) Tazkiratul Aimma - P103-4.(20.) Haqqul Yaqeen - P509 - 510.(21.) Kitaab be Noujawanaan - P8.( 22.) Tajalliyaar-e-Sadaqaat - P201- Muhammed Hussain Dhelvi.

EDIT: @ FTL  Taqqiya won't help here and Muawiyah(Ra) is the same of them he was great sahabi and brother in Law with the prophet as Muslims we love him as much as we love other sahabas !

this dude is trying to be smart like some of his ayatollas

they act like they don't hate sahabas and they Only hate Mua'awiya(RA) !

and BTW i hope you show us this love for sahaba's   ; )

Answer 12

well first of all i wanna make clear that i ADORE Abu Bakr & Umar, BUT this is really a bad timing to ask such question as our enemies are tearing the Islam Ummah apart by sowing hatred seeds among muslims. So, i say let's focus on just being UNITED again, and let the Sunni's - Shia problem to the shiekhs of both sides.

let's just focus on the basics and  positives, we all worship one God and we all believe that Mohammed is His messenger. Other than that is a matter between man and Allah.

peace.

Answer 13

These little kids are just full of anger. Whoever is teaching them all this hate and bullshyt is doing a gr8 job of producing nut-heads.

Answer 14

umm, islam has to be used as a word. Shia and Sunni, are to dif religions. so its like islam1 and islam2.

But ye, under sunni (me) u can't say their iblees. U know even shia's shouldn't say that. its a shame how people think so.

whatever. wether there right or wrong. everyone will know when the time comes.

pce

Answer 15

Shias r not only against Wahabi o, deobandi or Brailvi .

They r against islam

Their enmity is statrted with Abu Bakr (ra) and OMAR (ra)

See what khomaini says abourt quran and Sahabah

KHOMEINI ON QURAN IN HIS "KASHFUL ASRAR"

"TAHREEF (deliberate alteration of words to change the meaning of the holy books, namely, the Bible, etc.) is that fault which Muslims accuse Jews and Christians of indulging in, has proved to be found in the Ashaabs (of Rasoolullah - sallal laahu alaihi wasallam)."

(KASHFUL ASRAR, PAGE 114)

"It was easy for the Ashaabs (of Rasoolullah - sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) to remove verses from the Holy Quran and deliberately add verses to it, and in this way forever concealing from the people of the world the true Quran."

(KASHFUL ASRAR, PAGE 114)

KHOMEINI'S DECLARATION

"The Islamic and non-Islamic powers of the world will not admit our power till such time that we establish our hold over Makkah and Madinah because these are the centers and citadels of Islam. Hence our domination over these places Is an essential requirement ... when as a conqueror I will enter Makkah and Madinah, the first thing to be done at that time by me would be to dig out two idols (Abu Bakr and Umar) lying by the side of the Prophet's grave."

(Ayatullah Khomeini of Iran, while addressing a message for a youth rally).

Khomeinism and Islam,

page 8 by Abu Rehan

He said Abu Bakr And Omar (ra)Idols.

@ FTL !!

dont use Taqiyya by using ra wirh Abu Bakr And Umar

Or if u saying this from deep down your heart ,

So just say who ever curse them is not muslim

Like Majlisi,khomaini who used the worst words for the best of the persons

Read ur books what shias authentic books say about them

All sunnis consider Muawiyah (ra) was a sahabi.

We all muslims can not tolerate his insult .

Answer 16

They can but it's not factually correct. There's only one iblees but many shayateen.

Answer 17

no one can NEVER say that.

whoso ever says is he out of islam?? allah will decide that.

Answer 18

no no muslim sa that abu bakar and umer were iblees

Answer 19

in many books its written that they hated prophet muhammad (ص), they're the bad guys... who would u support more? the sons of prophet muhammad (ص)? or people who weren't even from aal muhammad (ص) ?

Answer 20

Astaghfirullah Never!