Can anyone answer my question without assumptions and giving abuse?

Question

I have a KC registered border collie - he is a pedigree - his grandfather was renowned as one of the best working dogs out there - his dad has won many shows - my dog is going to be tested for TNS - CEA eye tested and Hip scored

I want to know what makes a dog proven? Thanks - please don't insult me and say by not knowing this I must run a puppy mill or something because no i dont - my dog has a fab temperemnt and is stunning - his pups would be awesome quality - and im 15 so I dont really know all the details - so if you want to help then please do = otherwise leave me alone!!

Yes im 15 and yes i want to breed my dog - if people don't help me then how do i better my knowledge - if i think after this oh maybe I better leave it - wait a bit etc then i will but frankly it has nothing to do with you as I will never harm the breed as I love dogs too much and hate irrisponsible dog owners!!! So please just give me some advise - as thats wat i thought this website was for

Answer 1

It actually sounds like you are being very responsible. It sounds like you have a dog worthy of breeding, especially if he passes all of his health screenings. You may be a little young to handle all of the responsibility, of puppies, especially since I am sure you are still in school. I think that if your parents were willing and able to help you with all of the costs and responsibilities of breeding your dog, then this may be a good experience for you. But please, like I said, think long and hard regarding whether you can handle the responsibility. You sound like an intelligent kid. As long as your parents back you up, it sounds like you will have beautiful puppies.  

Answer 2

Good for you taking the time to have your dog health tested.

Since you haven't completed the process you don't know if the results are good or not.  I hope you understand the consequences of breeding a dog with health problems and will make the responsible decision if the results are not all good or better.

The best way to get help is to speak with your dogs breeder.  They should be able to answer your questions and provide you guidance.

Proven means the dog has successfully reproduced at least one pup that is equal to or better than the sire-a champion, good health, good temperament, etc.  I would like to believe there's more to it than simply having viable s***n and the skill to successfully breed the bi+ch.

That's one of the differernces between responsible breeding and byb/puppymill production.

Answer 3

where do you work to care for the pups and to get all the shots needed?

get out of here

Answer 4

Okay well first of this is the last place to be looking for help - As good as your dog's background is if he's not living up to that greatness do not breed him. Secondly go and talk with the breeder you got him from and see if they will be willing to mentor you. No offense but this is a BIG job for a 15 yr old and you need to get the adults in your life involved.

That's the best advice I can give you

Answer 5

15 years old and you want to breed dogs - amazing.

What is KC registered??   Only registry that's legit is AKC and showing your dog and having him win his championship is what would "prove" him worth breeding.

Sweety, this is not a hobby, or a fun thing to do on a weekend - takes years of showing quality dogs to be a decent breeder, breeding for the good of the breed.   You don't even know the registry, let alone how to show your dog.

Please - find a nice hobby, get your dog neutered and enjoy his as a companion pet the way he should be.

HIs pups would be "awesome quality" --- sure, and you have several breeders willing to match their champion female with your stud --- right?   That's how it works if you want to do it right, you wouldn't have to be on here trying to get a clue as to what to do.

Last thing the world needs is another back yard breeder, let alone a 15 year old one.   Scary.

Answer 6

Go to the KC website and look for a mentor in your breed.

Answer 7

Proven simply means that he has sired puppies. Good Luck.

Answer 8

My understanding with what little knowledge I have of dogs, but I do know about farm animals, is that pr oven means it has the likely hood of having good offspring be it male of female. The offspring should have all the qualities that the parent has be it markings,temperament etc.Qualities that are characteristic of that breed.

Answer 9

Gina, here's what you need to do.

Go to the AKC website and locate a registered border collie breeder who shows/works their dogs. Call them up, tell them you're interested in becomming a responsible breeder and ask them if they would consider acting as a mentor to you. That is the single best way to better your knowledge...not asking people here. Most don't know their a** from their elbow.

It might take a few years until you're ready to purchase your breeding stock, but it will be worth the time and effort.

Proving your dog is proving his worth in the ring. Start showing your BC.

Answer 10

You proove your dog by showing him or working him and putting tiles to his name.

He also needs all genetic tests done BEFORE breeding.  Great hips are nice, but that doesnt mean much if he produces pups with PRA or bad elbows!  He should also have a brucellosis test done no more than 6 months before a breeding..  you should require this test done on ANY female before you stud him to her!  Brucellosis is a serious disease that causes infertility, and can be passed along to humans thru contact with infected bodily fluids!

It doesnt really matter that his grandfather was a great working dog..  even top dogs produce pups that are just pet-quality.  You need to show and/or work this dog to proove that he is quality.

You will put more money into prooving your dog and doing genetic health tests than what you will get back with stud fees.  Breeding is a hobby, a very expensive hobby!

Prooven does not mean that he has "sired pups"  prooven means that he's earned titles and prooved that he fits the standard, or can do the job he was bred to do!

Answer 11

Well, to start, Y!A isn't the best place to look for breeding Q's- there are many kids on here that pretend to be old enough to know what they are talking about, as well as irresponsible breeders!!!

Proven means he's sired breeds before, and produced healthy pups.

Find a breeding mentor  in your area, and they can help you through it!!!

However, save up a LOT of money, since anything can go wrong with even the best of dogs.

Answer 12

Every breeder has to start somewhere.

You showed by your opening paragraph that you want to do it right.

Puppy Mills & BYB don't bother to test the dog to ensure it won't pass on genetic problems.  

A good next step for you is to talk to your dog's breeder.  Ask your dog's breeder if s/he considers your dog to be breeding quality.  Even great dogs produce pups who are considered "pet quality" which means they're not high enough quality to breed. Every breeder needs a mentor and who better than your own dog's breeder.  If you don't live close to your breeder, ask your breeder if s/he knows another breeder near you who could help mentor you.

Learn all about your dog's breed.  (You didn't say what age your dog is, but they shouldn't breed till age 2, so start studying now).  Learn the breed traits.  Research and get copies of your dog's ancesters' registration papers.  

Socialize your dog well.  Train your dog.  A BC is a herding dog and needs to work with a handler and is happier with work to do.

Even though your dog is male, read up all about mating dogs, pregnancy, labor and delivery.  

Go to the AKC and locate the state and local breed clubs for your dog.  They can help you find a mentor if your breeder can't or can't help you locate someone close enough by to mentor you.  The breed clubs can be a good source of help on what you need to read and learn to be a good breeder.  They would be pleased to assist a teen who cares so much about doing it right.  

If you want to talk more, there's a link below to my herding dog at dogster.  You can reach me and my wife through there.  

Even though you're serious, some will try to discourage you simply because most people who ask are not serious about learning and doing it right.  99.9% of people who say "I want to breed" don't know enough to do a good job, and have no interest in doing the work involved to learn and to do it right.

As you learn, you will need to figure out what qualities in a ***** would compliment your boy's qualities so you can pick a really good female to mate him with.  Getting him mated to females of equally good quality is easier by becoming known in the BC club at the local and state levels.

One thing some people will tell you is that the dog must be shown to be bred.  This can be done, but is not really as important as some people claim.  I've heard some breeders claim that only show winners should be allowed to breed, and I consider them to be sadly mistaken.  I believe it's better to get a working / herding dog from someone who's using the dog to do it's proper job, and show dogs do not, in my opinion, have as good a work attitude as dogs who are actively working.

I hope this helps you.  

cw