Can anyone help me with my loop and flip jumps?

Question

I can't land my loop or my flip jumps! It's really making me mad at myself! Any tips greatly appreciated.

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Answer 1

first you need to land your loop - the flip will not work unless you can land loop.

try loop jump from forward inside three turn (it will help you to feel rotation) cross you leg in front as you turn backwards turn your knee out (the one that&#039;s in the air after the three turn) keep you arms still (one in front one behind of the body) start rotating on the ice...when you can&#039;t go any more release you arms and jump at the same time.

all of those moves have to be done quite strong, so dont wobble on the three turn into the jump ....good luck

Answer 2

my loop and flip took me the longest time but now im doing double 1&#039;s its not that bad...it depends on how good is your coach like mine is kinda old but she trained sarah huges when she was little. just maker sure when going into your loop you use deep back cross oversand get on a really good back outside edge ( it might help if you do some really good back outside 3 turns and a good backspin....all the loop is is a back spin in the air just like a scratch spin is your axel) once you have a really good back outside edge just sit a little then bring everything up, put your left or right foot in the backspin position(it depends on how u jump) and tuck your arms in tight with some practice you sohould get it but ur edge is extremly important. with the flip, make sure you are completely straight going into it put your foot in front adn tilt it to the side but stay straight then do a three turn and really sitck your toe into the ice by then all you hae to do is lift up like the loop ****suggestion*****master your loop befor you start the flip it makes the flipp alot easier

Answer 3

Once you land the loop the flip becomes much easier after you realize that it mimicks the loop in certain ways. I can&#039;t explain very well because I&#039;ve always been pretty bad with the lingo but anyway I couldn&#039;t land the flip forever until my couch told me that it&#039;s simular to the loop in landing. After that I didn&#039;t land on two feet anymore.

For the loop you have to just know when you&#039;re ready. Trust yourself and put all the power into your food that you can. It&#039;s hard at first but after lots of practice it always works out in the end.

Answer 4

Can you do a decent backspin?  That&#039;s what helped me the most because it taught me how to get my weight over my right side (left if you&#039;re CW).  It also helps you get your legs in the right position for rotating and landing.

Answer 5

The flip jump

The flip jump is done by skating on your left back inside edge and placing your right toe into the ice to lift off and rotate one full turn. This  is an edge jump.  You will land on your right back outside edge.

The air position  in this jump is the basic pposition for your body and balance in most of the jumps.

The loop jump

This edge jump is done from your right back outside edge, jumping unto the air and rotating one full revolution before landing on the same edge as the takeoff which was your right back outside edge.

I hope this help!

Answer 6

Loop and flip can take some time.  It took me three months of going to the ice rink every day before I got my loop.  Then my flip came right after.

My advice is learn the loop first.  Then the flip will follow up with a little practice.  This is because the loop is seemingly impossible to skaters... I remember when I learned it I constantly was asking my coach &quot;Where am I getting momentum?  How am I supposed to take off?&quot;  It was very frustrating.  The flip is a toe jump which means that you actually can &quot;jump off&quot; of your toe.

So let&#039;s get started.  How do you learn these?  Easy.  Well, not really.  As every coach and pro I know, I&#039;m going to tell you start your practice on the ground.  It sounds silly but it builds the muscles you need and teaches your body what you need to do.  You can practice in your house or outside, wherever you feel comfortable.  Either practice it from a stand still (I&#039;m assuming you land on your right foot, so practice doing one rotation over and over just on your right foot) or you can practice from an off ice inside right three turn.  Just make sure you&#039;re going all the way around, pulling the left foot in tight, and pulling your arms in.  Then make sure you have a great check out.

At my ice rink, I have one of the best loops.  The secret is to think that you&#039;re on a merry-go-round.  When you&#039;re setting up for your loop, bend your knees.  But don&#039;t let your body bend!  Keep a straight back but really sink into your knees.  The farther you sink down, the higher you&#039;re going to go.  When you&#039;re ready to take off, start to unbend your knees, and make sure your left foot is higher than your right foot so you don&#039;t land on two feet.  The secret to a HUGE loop is when you are unbending your knees to jump in the air make sure you follow that &quot;unbending&quot; all the way to the tip of your toes.  When you take off for the jump, make sure the last part of you to touch the ice is the toe pick.  If you take off of a flat blade, you&#039;re going to land on a flat blade and that will make you fall.  REALLY practice bending down and pushing off the toe of your right foot.

Then for the flip, I do mine from a left three turn but you can do them from a mohawk as well.  Either way you should practice these off the ice, too.  When you&#039;re ready to put your toe in the ice make sure your leg is fully extended.  A bent leg take off will lead to a bad jump.  The secret to a great flip is something my coach repeats a hundred times a lesson.  When you extend your right foot back to take off, and right as you&#039;re about to jump, slide your left foot closer to your right foot.  This makes rotating in the air easier.  If you extend your right foot out too far and your left leg stays in front too much what happens is that you&#039;ll be off balance in the air and probably have a terrible landing.

I learned both of these jumps in ISI Freestyle 4.  At the same time I was struggling with my sit spin.  I focused a lot on strengthening my legs so I could have a better sit spin but it turns out that it made my jumps even better.  Now that you&#039;re doing jumps that are full revolutions, your body will expect more from your legs.  I recommend getting a weight ball and do a million squats with it.  It&#039;ll help how high you go on your jumps!

Best of luck!