Can muslims lie to none muslims?

Question

Can muslims lie to none muslims?

Is this a practice of war?

Islam declared war on the world

CONDITIONS OF THE PLEDGE AT THE SECOND AQABA

When God gave permission to his apostle to fight, the second ‘Aqaba contained conditions involving war which were not in the first act of fealty. Now they bound themselves to war against all and sundry for God and his apostle, while he promised them for faithful service thus the reward of paradise.

Ishaq:208 "When Allah gave permission to his Apostle to fight, the second Aqaba contained conditions involving war which were not in the first act of submission. Now we bound ourselves to war against all mankind for Allah and His Apostle. He promised us a reward in Paradise for faithful service. We pledged ourselves to war in complete obedience to Muhammad no matter how evil the circumstances."

which can be read in Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah which can he found here on page 128

http://infidelnation.org/DOWNLOADS/Sirat.rar

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 267:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "Khosrau will be ruined, and there will be no Khosrau after him, and Caesar will surely be ruined and there will be no Caesar after him, and you will spend their treasures in Allah's Cause." He called, "War is deceit'.

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Volume 4, Book 52, Number 268:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle called,: "War is deceit".

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Volume 4, Book 52, Number 269:

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:

The Prophet said, "War is deceit."

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Volume 4, Book 52, Number 270:

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:

The Prophet said, "Who is ready to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has really hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Muhammad bin Maslama said, "O Allah's Apostle! Do you like me to kill him?" He replied in the affirmative. So, Muhammad bin Maslama went to him (i.e. Ka'b) and said, "This person (i.e. the Prophet) has put us to task and asked us for charity." Ka'b replied, "By Allah, you will get tired of him." Muhammad said to him, "We have followed him, so we dislike to leave him till we see the end of his affair." Muhammad bin Maslama went on talking to him in this way till he got the chance to kill him.

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Volume 4, Book 52, Number 271:

Narrated Jabir:

The Prophet said, "Who is ready to kill Ka'b bin Ashraf (i.e. a Jew)." Muhammad bin Maslama replied, "Do you like me to kill him?" The Prophet replied in the affirmative. Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say what I like." The Prophet replied, "I do (i.e. allow you)."

“’When it is possible to achieve…an aim by lying but not telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if the goal is permissible, and it is obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory.

“’When, for example, one is concealing a Muslim from an oppressor who asks where he is, it is obligatory to lie about him being hidden.” [see text at note 15, infra]

“… ‘it is obligatory for a [Muslim] student to give a positive interpretation to every utterance of his [Muslim] brothers that seems to be wrong until he has exhausted seventy excuses. No one is incapable of this except a failure.’” [see text at note 22, infra]

Answer 1

as far as i know, they are biggest liars of all time

it started with their prophet seeing invisible things gifted by fairydoll

Answer 2

Apparently so:

The Qur'an:

Sura (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.

Sura (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."  

Sura (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.

Sura (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts"

Sura (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths"

Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.





From the Hadith:



Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'"  The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed men by Muhammad's men after he "guaranteed" them safe passage (see Additional Notes below).



Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar."  Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means.



Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permissible in order to deceive an "enemy."



Bukhari (52:271) - Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad's insistence.  The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka'b's trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad.  This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered despite putting up a ferocious struggle for his life.



From Islamic Law:



Reliance of the Traveler (p. 746) -  "[it is] obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory... Whether the purpose is war, settling a disagreement, or gaining the sympathy of a victim legally entitled to retaliate... it is not unlawful to lie when any of these aims can only be attained through lying.  But is is religiously precautionary in all cases to employ words that give a misleading impression..."

Answer 3

most muslims are best liers, how else do you think we managed to survive?

Answer 4

No. unless you want to save your live!!

Answer 5

Lie to whomever you wish.  It makes no difference to your soul who is the recipient of your forked tongue.

Answer 6

no Muslims do not lie to anyone,

war is different. you do not expect an army to tel the other army where they are going to attack, now do you?

Answer 7

i have just read a stupid answer :

Christians lie to non Christians!

that is not true..i mean who are you to judge??

anyway..

i think no one should lie except at some situations that doesn't include saying lies about you religion..

i mean i'm a Christin "and proud" and i wont ever say i'm not!

good question by the way..it made me think :P

Answer 8

lying and deceiving is not allowed whether u lie or deceive a muslim or none muslim !!

Saddam deceived kuwaiti ppl by signing a peace treaty and then turned overnight and invaded kuwait !!... killed lots of innocent and left many homeless and look  what happened to him !! he died in shame .. even his own ppl hated him !!

Answer 9

Christians lie to other Christians.

again another christian thinking he knows all about the Muslim religion but doesn't just like they think they know about our Christianity but dint.

if you were really a man of god you would see everyone as sons of god regardless of there actions and religious preference

Answer 10

yes of course why not for many benefits lol  

Answer 11

deceiving enemy in war is one of the basic tactics of war and has been acceptable in all culture.

However, Islam does not allow lying for treaty.

Answer 12

No. unless for good reason.