Can police issue a ve10 no tax on a van parked on privately owned council land

Question

i have a van parked in one of two allocated parking spaces. it is used for storage only and when i parked it there the land belonged to a local housing trust. since a change of policy where they transfered that land to the council residents have been told to remove any untaxed cars even though it states in my tenacy agreement that i have a right to two parking spaces. on friday i got a ve10 for no tax and it said on the ticket that the van was parked on the road. can the police issue a ve10 for no tax on a vehicle parked on privately owned council land because it sure ain't highways.

Answer 1

I would think so

My tax ran out while on holiday and my car was parked at a private holiday park. The police apparently had permission from the owner to patrol the park.

I think that your only safe IF your car/van is parked on your own land and even then you need to SORN it

Answer 2

Yes, it's still public owned land, just owned by the council, a public funded organization.

Answer 3

Yes, if you were told to remove any untaxed cars then they must have grounds for it and therefore the police can issue the VE10.

Answer 4

Your tenancy agreement may say you have a right to two parking spaces, but it will say "parking spaces", not ground for a storage facility.  You've clearly been warned by the new owners, the council, to deal with it but you haven't.  The council will have, by the sound of it,  adopted the land as part of the highway, hence the ticket.

Answer 5

Yeah, I've seen an example of police ticketing people parking on private land which however borders to the State Beach.

Answer 6

debatable , you have right to " park " still , but parking is a temporary state of a vehicle that is taxed , insured , mobile , tested , if you park a vehicle that is legit. for too long it  may be classed as abandoned . Also the parking spaces are not defined as yours therefore anybody may park in the alloted off road parking spaces . The tax aspect I would have thought you could contend as it may be council owned but is not highway therefore your vehicle is off road but abandoned they can go for and obstruction of designated parking spaces . Be careful " if the boot don't get ya the rifle gonna " . And let's be honest mate they are just trying to tidy up an unsightly area .

Answer 7

of course they can it still  belongs to the council :-)

Answer 8

It's Council land, so yes they can do what they like about untaxed vehicles. Even on private land you need a SORN.

Answer 9

The vehicle must either be taxed or subject to an up to date SORN.  

Answer 10

Ok lets clarify a few points for you.Any vehicle parked on council owned land can not only be issued with a fixed penalty notice but,can even be towed away if it is untaxed.uninsured or not in receipt of a current roadworthy certificate (mot).

Private property however,is a different story and when they say private it means property not owned directly by the local council.

You tenancy agreement allows you to park two taxed and insured cars in the spaces allocated to your dwelling only and not untaxed.

If you send in a SORN notice to the DVLA then you will have to take the car off the road altogether,that will include the parking bays.

There are no other solution to your dilemma and all that you can do is either pay up or take the cars off the road.

Answer 11

Where a vehicle is parked no longer matters.

The changes to the registration requirements made a couple of years ago (2002) has made it so that any vehicle that does not have a current SORN must be taxed, irrespective of where it is parked or even if it is in use. The law works on the assumption that it is being used on the road if there is no SORN.

Just another example of modern day Britain where you are deemed to be guilty and, in this case, are not even allowed to prove that you are innocent.

Answer 12

If it is now council land it ISN'T private land. You had been warned, anywhere the road traffic act applies requires vehicles to have a road fund licence.

Get your van moved quickly or you might lose it altogether. This might seem tough but life isn't fair.

Answer 13

You have NOT committed the offence of keeping or using a m/vehicle on a road without an excise licence.What has happened is that you have parked your vehicle on land not belonging to you, without the owners permission. They have a right to have it removed, after a notice has been appended to the vehicle for 1 week.. If a sign was displayed they could remove it immediately.

Answer 14

Of course they can. Council owned land is not privately owned- it belongs to the people of the borough.

Answer 15

The key issue here is not strictly whether the Council or the Housing Association own the space.

Road Tax is regulated by the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994 which applies to vehicles on "public roads" i.e those maintained at public expense.I can see your point but I suspect that technically the VE10 was correctly issued.

The only way to set your mind completely at rest is to check with the Council's Highways Department if your space is a "public road".At least they are not going to tow it away.