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Can the U.S. beat Russia

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how big is Russia s army and if we had to could the U.S. defeat Russia in war.?

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  1. If the U.S. military does as always and is stupid enough to announce it's intentions of an attack in the media, we will lose. The Russians would be simply waiting us to enter their country. Their country is immense compared to ours and we would have a lot of ground and air to cover.

    By the way, the Russians have a much difficult training program than we do. How do I know this? In our military you have to be careful what you do or say to the troops. Ever since the mothers of new recruits started whining about harsh treatment 25 years ago Senators have been nagging at instructors to lighten up. In the Russian military there is no room for the ACLU and whining mothers.

    Don't get difficult training programs mixed up with weak. I'm not saying that at all.

    I have served in our military and I have nothing against the U.S. military. Our military produces some very tough and skilled individuals. However, we do announce our intentions for an attack every time a war is imminent.  Iran is already expecting one from us. So why wouldn't Russia be waiting? They're not stupid, but they are aware of the possibility.

    Here's another very good example: The speed of Russia's attack surprised even the U.S. military. I had just seen this is the news. Russia never announced it's intentions or the hardware involved, they just did it.

    Our nosy media and the pentagon being controlled by weaker minded individuals prevents us from pulling something like this off.


  2. as long as Spetsnaz doesnt get involved, we're golden

  3. why all the fuss havent we been doing what russia is doing for 5 years now?

    just saying.

  4. Russia has a pretty decent army and over the past several years they have spent billions on modifying thier army to meet the threats that they face. The only threat to Russia is the US and its allies. From a Strategic standpoint we are in a better position to engage Russia and push them back into thier zone if they happened to occupy another nation.

    If the war is fought on Russian soil it would pose a whole slew of issues. Nevertheless, the US can and will hit every major strategic and tactical point in Russia. It would be a war that would utilize both the full spectrum of Russian and US sophisticated arsenals without the use of nuclear. And on that note; Russia Vs the US is soooo big that its almost too big to happen. Beating Russia or Russia beating the US will send the world economy spiraling in an unrecoverable downowrd trend.

    But for the sake of imagining such an event in realistic terms; If the US had to put ground troops in Russia to fight an all out war without the use of WMDs, I will give the US a pretty good marginal lead of the Russian forces. Only because the US has been engaged in strategic and tactical operations since the beggining of the 90s. You can train for war, but war with all of it's inherit complexities cannot be mimicked in a training excersise. Russia hasn't been involved in all out war for decades and therefore will test faulty equipment for the first time against an opponent that is the considered the best in the world.

    Yes the US is battle ridden and overextended, but the US knows what will work and what will not. Russia on the other hand still has to find out. the only thing they are going on now is the high morale they have recieved from this recent engagement and that in its self is a false sense of security.

      

  5. Yes handsdown we did it before and we have nukes but i heard russia have alot of chemical weapons so if they got us by suprise it would be an uphill battle

  6. In a conventional war the US would win.  That doesn't give Russia a good incentive to fight a conventional war.

  7. Yes, we would win.  The Russians got quite a bit of their military supplies from the US.  As far as allies are concerned the US would have more allies that could help them that wouldn't mess up any past alliances.

  8. It depends, if you are asking about fighting in one or another country, then the side trying to invade the other one would lose.

    Now, Russia is not even likely to invade the US, they don't have the resources to do that. The US could try to invade Russia, but Russia has the means to sink an entire fleet and shoot down any aircraft (even B2s wouldn't be safe) or even satellites. That's why we won't be seeing war between those two.

    Greetings.

  9. Lets go back several years to a newscaster who part of his name was Williams and he, in his cocky glee-filled face said as much that  the USSR?Russia was no longer a player and the  US is the only big dog on the block.   I cringed and decided I can't watch this guy any more.  I think Mr. Putin and I both saw  and heard  a  big mistake, the difference being I can't do anything but watch the news.    Mr. Putin has lots of resources.

  10. Yes USA can win definately but it would most certainly come out a former shadow of its greatself just like the British after WWII. Even though our nation can win one cannot rule out the fact that Russia can inflict the most damage than probably any nation on earth to us therefore leaving us deeply wounden. After the dust has settled China would most likely see its opportunity to finally rise as the new dominant power in the world.  

  11. If all US military was put into it, US may win.

    However, with our occupation elsewhere...

    Won't happen anyway. Calm down.

  12. Russia will not start the war, so the Russians will be in defending. They will fight for the own country, family and childs. There is no power that can defeat this.

    US didn't won the last wars ( Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam ), there is no reason to win with Russia.

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