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Can there be negative loss and positive profit in some options spread orders?

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I am mentioning about the risk rewards ratio.

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  1. A negative loss is a profit.

    If you are asking if both legs of a two legged spread can generate a profit, the answer is yes. Here is an example:

    On April 15 I opened a CROX Diagonal Put Spread

    Bought 10 Sept. $20 puts @ $9.80

    Sold 10 April $10 puts @ $0.40

    The April $10 puts expired, realizing a profit of $0.40 per share.

    I sold the Sept. 20 puts for $10.00 realizing a profit of $0.20 per share.

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    I am not sure why you mentioned the risk reward ratio. If you are asking if you can open a spread that has a positive reward and no risk, the answer is "no" unless you do not include carrying costs when calculating the return from the spread. For example, you can frequently buy a stock and use long-term options to establish a synthetic short stock position, creating a risk free profit. However, the profit will be less than the risk free interest rate, so you would have made more money by buying United States Treasury debt.


  2. Using proper spread order can generate 20% profit and 9% lost. Which I think is fair enough.  

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