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Can these drug combinations be fatal? Ecstasy, ketamine, phencyclidine, mescaline.?

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I'm doing research for my first murder mystery and I need to know if 'love flipping' (Ecstasy & Mescaline), 'elephant flipping (Ecstasy & Phencyclidine), or kitty flipping' (Ecstasy & Ketamine) can be fatal in big enough doses. Or what about 'Cheese' (heroin & diphenhydramine) I think they are all s*x drugs which is essential to the story. Any help would be appricated.

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  1. of all these mixes, the one you call Cheese is most likely to be fatal.  it's basically taking benadryl with heroin.  Benadryl makes you very tired.  heroin does too, and it also decreases your respiratory system.  Junkies take benadryl to kick in the effects of the heroin, and so obviously, since heroin alone can kill, mangnifying the effects increase that risk.

    I think that the deaths from mixing various drugs w/ecstasy are mostly anomolies where it was either kids new to drugs taking too much, or every now and then you ehar about people ODing from overheating after dancing al night.

    All the Ecstasy flipping might make for some intense rolls, but i doubt you'd die from them.  let me put it this way - I, as a reader, would believe the Cheese OD over the other ones.

    You might want to change the combos to Ecstasy and Xanax, or speedballing (coke and heroin), or heroin and valium, which would really do a number on your respiratory system.  Or herion and GHB as well.


  2. any and all can be. Ketamine will make you stop breathing. It's a animal tranquilizer.  Also used for conscious sedation for procedures on pediatric pts.

  3. Ecstasy alone can be fatal in big enough doses. So any of those could be fatal. I'm not sure about the heroin and diphenhydramine though. Most heroin-related deaths involve other depressants. (Alcohol, Temazepam, and Methadone) Another cause of heroin related deaths is mixing depressants and stimulants. "Speedballs" (injected heroin and cocaine) and "moonrocks" (smoked heroin and cocaine) can cause unpredictable and fatal results.  

  4. Ecstasy+Mescaline - not any worse

    E+PCP - not worse

    E+Ketamine - not worse

    Heroin+diphenhydramine (benadryl) - the diphenhydramine makes the heroin more intense, that's all it does.

    Those combos aren't any more fatal than the drugs alone (except for cheese).

    And 'kitty flipping' and 'cheese' can't be used for s*x, because of the ketamine and the heroin (too relaxing). The others could be, but not exclusively.

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