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Can u use pressure points to paralyze someone temporarily?

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Can u use pressure points to paralyze someone temporarily?

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  1. Wasn't going to respond but had to for the pama guy... Lame troll... really lame. It's no the "toughness" of the low brow apes running around, it's the incorrect application. Not everybody feels PAIN. If you mess up the circuitry the lights go off, period, there just might not be an alarm sounding before they go out.

    Edit- to Bluto's comment on the 10000 volts deal. That's an electrical disruption and some people (extremely rare cases) are able to thwart the "electrocution" through control of their body. I've seen it in action. Now, no this guy didn't just stand there and smile, he was phased by it, but was able to control himself enough to pull out the pins and his body only showed a small sign of being affected by the taser. So again any thing's possible.

    On another note, the biggest thing with the lower level (more physical) PP striking is the bending, squeezing, and stretching of the nerves that lie along the meridians. That's the biggest reason why these things don't work on everybody. At this lower level we're looking for something the size of a pinhead while getting punched in the face. The skill required for that is immense, and not very many people push their training with these skills as to why it works and what's the ultimate goal for learning this skill. I've come across my fair share of frauds, and on the other side of the coin I've seen and been privy to some excellent demonstrations, with real attacking intent involved. I've seen the always bizarre light touch knockouts, as well as laughed my *** off at some of the BS that's out there. EX (I don't know if you've ever seen Dillman talk about his killing and bringing back to life of his little dog. If not you should... it's a riot! Well during this demonstration he talks about using the HT points on the hand to restart somebody's heart. There is some (speculated) truth to this, but, he clearly didn't know what he was doing when he was making a popping sound with his mouth pretending that was what the technique did with his fingers... too funny)

    I will add though that I agree with what Sensei mentioned about not giving out the application information on here or any other public forum. That said I am not against giving detail both physical and metaphysical of the effects and consequences of these techniques. I believe that since there is so much of this information out there and the ease of access for it, that we, the knowing, have it as a responsibility  to ensure people understand what they're doing and what real harm can come about from doing this. Some effects/reactions may look funny, but this is no laughing matter as people can have serious health problems afterword, if not death from the ignorant fooling around. Just like electrical work, nobody wants to run around playing with wires and generators without learning about it first.

    I have used points in my experience that have weakened the arm to where it was useless, as well as the leg to where they were not able to stand. Neither one was painful but the true effects were just the same.

    There is also the all too common nerve on the thigh everybody knows as the deadleg. Same place where you walk up to your buddy and kneed him for the charlie-horse. That's a definition of what you're asking.

    This stuff is out there you just have to know where and how to look for it, along with having the right frame of mind.


  2. Pressure points work on 9 out of 10 people, I've worked w/ some people that don't respond to them and you have to wonder on the street if that person attacking you is in that 10% and high, you better just be a good all around fighter, because I've seen guys that will walk right thru you just by being in good shape and tough. The MMA type, these guys are unbelievably tough,  BE READY!!

  3. no.

    and its no guarantee as different people ahve different body types and different resistances.  Also under stressfull circumstances, as opposed to a dojo/gym/kwoon environment where you are calmer, there is adrenaline fueling you as well that would tend to make such things iffy AT BEST- especially since you will put yourself at risk if you fail or it just plain doesn't work.

    well thats not exactly true-

    with this technique you can paralize someone with a high rate of success every time!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_5fhGi7I...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxZn7fD8Y...

    EDIT: why do I mention tasers? (aside from the amusement factor of the videos) if it takes 10,000 or more volts to incapacitate a human, and in many of these cases people do die from it, how the h**l do you logically think that you can ensure enough power in your "pressure point" to sufficiently incapacitate a person. unless they started implanting bionics into peopel that I don't know about that can deliver such voltage then I don't see how this can be relied upon in a situation where so many factors that are real and present and likely in an individual in an altercation to make this a reliable technique if it works in the first place.

    alcohol, drugs, rage, adrenalin, personal physique all of this play a role and they are very very common occurances to the point that it would be more likely than not for them to be a factor in a "fight" or altercation .  so how can anyone logically say "well it works well under these controlled circumstances, but the common elements we would see which are x factors in the equation, we haven't tested it against".

    EDIT2: it can't be that hard- get some bums, pay them a couple of bucks and tell them you will give them free alcohol if they let you test out some pressure points on thim while they are attacking you.

  4. you?  No, not if you have to ask.

  5. Someone gave sensei a thumbs down but he is very correct. Its all about distrupting the flow of energy that flows through your meridians. Each meridian flows to a different internal organ, so for example your lung meridian flows up and down your left arm, hense the accupuncture or pressure points is named lung 1, lung 2 bla bla. So if you distrupt these points (be it with pressure or a srtike) all your energy will flow to this meridian through endorphins, kind of like the way adrenalin does, and leaves another meridian starved of energy and vulnerable to attack. You figure out what points leave what meridian vulnerable by reverting to the earth wind fire metal water chart (exactly the opposite as healing in accupuncture) AND yes you can do some nasty harm to people, which is why many styles guard the knowledge passed on.

  6. in my experience....yes and no.

    there is no magic point to stun someone and make them unable to move. however i have been hit on a few points that sort of numbed my arm or something.

    i've studied a bit of kyusho jutsu/dim mak as well.

    someone said it works on 9 out of 10 people...my experience is about 5 out of 10 people. it just isnt worth fussing over. a rear naked choke or eye jab works on everyone.

    but as a sensei once told me...if you try to hit a pressure point on someone and miss...you still blast em in the face. but if you never try to hit that point...you never will.

    it can get rather confusing and isnt really beginner material. some points you can hit all day and itll do nothing...but if you grab and squeeze it the person will jump out of their shoes. other ones you can hit or press with no effect...but if you continually rub it...it works.

    in my opinion it has nothing to do with "energy" or "chi/ki/qi/prana" whatever. i think the meridians and the 5 element theory were just unscientific ways of explaining the makeup of the body (and the universe as well).

    on the other hand...it does have to do with connective tissue. nerves..etc.

    stopping the chi flow is just a way of explaining something. it doesnt mean there are literally 12 hoses or paths inside your body through which some weird mystical energy flows. ...you dont really have fire, or earth inside your body.

    the elements are a good way to explain what i mean...as i said you dont really have fire inside your body...you dont have wood inside your body. but the "qualities" of fire,metal, wood describe qualities inside your body and how it relates to your internal organs.

    that isnt to say it doesnt work. just that back then they didnt have the technology to provide a scientific explanation. so they say energy/meridians etc ...as a way to teach.

    simply put ...its similar to paper, rock, scissors...and how they each can in turn defeat the other.

  7. It can be done but pressure point techniques are not a magic bullet as some would have you believe.  Some years ago after a car wreck I was sent to see an acupuncturist. Turns out that he was also a martial artist. We got together a few times. During that he told me that acupuncture works well on about 70% of the population. The other 30% may get some benefit fro it or none. My point is that the acupuncture points are the same ones used for self-defense. Therefore I think it safe to say that pressure point techniques should be effective about 70% of time.  That is assuming that you know what you are doing and are good at it. It takes time (years) to become good at it. Even so your self-defense should be such that it is effective no matter if you use the pressure points or not.

  8. Pressure Points works by disrupting the flow of energy. It has nothing to do with nerves or muscles or bones.

    I have a Dojo Brother who is not affected by it until he goes in front of Tom Muncy.

    (Paul Cartwheel, I take it you study kyushojutsu... with all due respect,  I have started a campaign here to not release too much kyusho info on here. We just can't risk this information getting into the wrong hands, especially with all the kids on here. Many of these knuckleheads have not earn the privilege as you and I have.

    And about the "thumbs down"...  there are some that have an agenda and when your answer makes them realize how little they really know about their own art, they elude to "thumbing down" answers that come from actual experience and research... thanks!)

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