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Can you board a train with no ticket or money?

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Can you board a train with no ticket or money?

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  1. In the UK you are required to be in possession of a valid ticket in order to board a train. Although the train Steward, Guard, or Ticket Inspector may allow you to pay the appropriate fare if you have been unable to purchase a ticket for some acceptable reason, i.e. because the ticket office was closed and ticket machines were out of order etc., you would still technically be in breech of the rules and could be prosecuted for boarding a train without a ticket, and with the intention not to pay.

    If you were also found to have no money on you, then I think it is likely that you would be prosecuted.

    I'm not sure whether the same regulations apply in Europe or elsewhere.


  2. i assume that you mean no means to pay then unless you have permission from an authorised person then you will be in breach of either railway by law 17 or18 depending on where you board. either of these could result in up to £1000 fine or 3 months in jail

  3. Yes you can and normally you will be fined and forced to pay a Penalty fare, possibly arrested, especially in the South East of England.

    The only time you are allowed to board a service without a ticket is as follows....

    The service is advertised as pay on board service (like Gatwick Express)

    The Ticket machines, Ticket Office are all broken / closed and there is no other way of purchasng a ticket or Permit to travel from any source. In which case you MUST seek out the Guard / Conductor of the train (Unless the service is Driver Only) and offer to pay for your travel.

    If you sit down and do not attempt to do any of the above, then you are deemed as 'Trying to avoid payment' and then can be subject to a Penalty Fare / Fine / Arrest.

    If there is no Conductor / Guard on the train or they do not have a ticket machine in operation on board they will advise you what to do (normally pay at excess window on departure of service where possible) or if a Revenue Inspector boards the service then they will cover for you and tell the inspector that you have already approached them for a ticket.

    If you board a service outside of a Penalty Fare Zone and the Ticket Office is open, or ticket machines are working, you are only entitled to a STANDARD OPEN SINGLE fare with no discounts to your destination, needless to say this can be expensive.

    Hope this helps

  4. yes you can, but a conductor will come down the train with a ticket machine

    also, you can't board a train between 8am - 10 am or 4pm - 5.30pm (there are conductors at the entrance)

  5. Yes you can arrange for a friend to meet you at the end and the friend can pay your ticket.

    Or you can give your name and address and ask for an invoice (this will cost a bit more though).

    Happy travelling !

  6. As fiona rightly says, it is an offence to travel without a ticket.  

    In the event of the ticket office being closed, and there is no automatic ticket machine, purchase a Pertis ticket (Permission to travel ) from the machine on the platform.  This must be redeemed at the ticket office at your destination, within 2 hours.

    I cannot comment on other companies, but if an individual turns up at the ticket window, and has no money to travel, then they are given our customer service phone number, and they then have to phone someone with a credit card, and give them that number.

      

    The friend/parent with the card has to cough up not only the price of the ticket, but also a 10 quid admin fee.  Once this has been received by customer services, they fax us and we issue the ticket.  This process can take over an hour.

  7. That depends.

    An adult would probably either get arrested or thrown off the train, if they got caught.

    Kids are a different story. I think most employees just let it slide. No one wants to be responsible for kicking a kid off in a bad neighborhood and then the company gets sued for millions when he get attacked and/or killed because of it.

  8. Not without committing a criminal offence.

  9. Well, this wont help you much,

    but yes, I do it every day, in fact they pay me money to do it.

    Then I get to sit up there and blow the whistle all day.

  10. Yes, if you intend on paying then you can often use a credit card. If you don't intend on paying then you better hope they don't ask for a ticket.

  11. In the UK, if you board a train without a ticket at a station at which you could have purchased one, then you are committing a criminal offence under the Railway Byelaws.

    If you board a train without a ticket and no means to pay for one, then you are guilty of the offence of criminal fraud, for which you can be sent to prision (you will not need a ticket there!)

  12. Yes, but you would need a card to pay for your ticket. Not reccomended if you can avoid it, buy at the station its cheaper!

  13. Technically you can physically but your not allowed to and if you get caught not paying the ticket price you can be fined more than the ticket price.......

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