Can you hope or believe that mankind will out grow need to be recognized by Nationality?

Question

Could you give up national boarders, and the rights currently associated with living in national republics like the USA... or relatively free areas like the EU.., If it meant that human kind could live more equally...no deprivation of any kind. But with less freedom to choose...i.e. if you don't make the grade to be in college you don't go. If you allotted to work on a farm for several years until your slot opens to enter college or a trade school you go or violate the law which would end up causing you to lose your slot for school. Just a question.

Answer 1

For the first part of your question, yes.  I think nationalism is one of the greatest forces for evil in the world.  It doesn't mean we have to be all one nation, but joining together as equal partners would be very beneficial.  Like the EU.  You look at the more or less constant warfare that's gone on in Europe for 1000 years, and the EU makes a lot of sense.  People don't give up being French or German or Dutch, but they give up the idea that being French or German or Dutch entitles them to more land, more rights, more money than the others.  And -everyone- does better because they don't need to waste so many resources on war.

The second part of your question goes a long way towards explaining why this is not happening.  Rich countries get a bigger share of the pie.  They don't want the pie to be re-cut with equal shares because that means their share will be smaller.  We in the US are maybe 4 or 5% of the world's population but we use about half the energy, and much more than our fair share of all the other resources of the world.  And we spend 1/3 or so of our national budget on military to protect our supply of the world's resources.  It's hard to convince people that they will be better off living on less, though I believe it's true.

And even within a nation that's true.  The US is really three nations living in the same land.  A very tiny privileged nation of millionaires who believe they are entitled to all the best of everything and don't even want to pay taxes, a large nation of middle class who struggle to keep up with their traditional standard of living, and a small but ever-growing underclass who are punished and demonized because they can't contribute to the wealth of the rich, for whatever reason.  These three nations are forever at each other's throats.  When we can solve our own internal problems, then maybe we can have a better understanding of how the world should work.

Answer 2

Based upon the first part of your question; I would certainly hope that people could be appreciated, and respected for their own nationality, as well as others respect each others differences.

Everyone is not the same; appreciating that fact is genuine. Attempting to treat everyone the same; is a quick hack at devaluing individual characteristics.

Answer 3

No,that's how nations fall.http://www.constitution.org/col/cuddy_nw... http://www.apfn.org/apfn/newworld.htm  http://www.academia.org/lectures/lind1.h... http://www.reversespins.com/pcmarx.html

Answer 4

Um...well I think that giving up nationality would be easy--it has happened many times in the past. Early citizens of the U.S. had strong state allegiances that were on par with nationalities which they eventually grew out of because the allegiances were no longer beneficial. Different levels of allegiances have changed plenty of times throughout history.

However, what you're describing sounds like much more than a change of allegiance. The system you describe sounds frighteningly authoritarian--I'm certainly in favor of equal opportunity and ending deprivation, but a system of "slots" for school or being "allotted" to work in a certain area implies government control of individual lives. That I don't think is a good idea. Invariably, somebody ends up with too much power and you get a cruel dictator. It's also been shown that systems which do not allow people to pursue their own career and educational choices are fundamentally inefficient, losing a lot of human potential.

But if you could work out equal opportunity economically, without eliminating our freedom of choice--hey, I'm all for that.

Answer 5

ABSOLUTELY NOT!  

I sacrificed and worked hard to get where I am.  Why should people who sit around and do nothing or choose to become druggies have "no deprivation of any kind?"

Take your marxist-based c**p somewhere else.