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Canon XL2 - no more 24p?

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I have recently heard that Canon stopped making the 24p function on the canon XL2. Is this true? They still have the 24p mode in the specifications on their website.

http://www.canon.ca/english/index-products.asp?lng=en&prodid=632&sgid=5&gid=2&ovr=1&epage=specifications

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  1. 2 things:

    1) No, they will not remove 24p. Period. 24p is the most coveted frame rate around, there is no way they will remove it.

    2) The other reason they won't remove it is because they are well beyond the XL2! The XL2 is old news. HD is here and cheap. I'm not telling you not to get one, I'm just saying that Canon doesn't give a c**p about the XL2 anymore now that they have all their newer cameras. They likely won't change anything on the XL2 at all, ever.

    Also don't listen to the guy who says 24p is useless, he is talking out of his ***.


  2. Where did you hear this from? Personally, I don't see how that would make much sense for Canon, or why any company would do that. The feature is part of the camera; they're not going to remove it. Besides, the XL2 is going to be discontinued soon enough.

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    Ok, I saw the answer from your previous question. I have no idea where that guy heard about this, but he didn't cite any sources. It's more than likely that it was just a mistake on his part. As for the XL2, it's a great camera, but if you're like me and just in high school (or college), I suggest getting an HV20, or at least getting a used XL2. First the HV20 has HD and 24p, is about $2000 cheaper than the XL2, and is a lot easier on your arms (with the standard lens, the XL2 is balanced awkwardly, placing most of the weight towards the front). Yes, you need Blu-Ray to watch HD, but who cares? Just downconverting HD to SD offers better quality than most 3ccd SD cams. And if you're like me, as long as the frame is composed the way I want it, the exposure is decent, and I've got 24p, I probably won't worry about if we're shooting at f/1.8 or 2.2. Don't get me wrong, I'm an amateur photographer as well, and I almost always shoot on manual. But when I have ten different things to do at once, adjusting shutter speed and aperture is probably the last thing I want or have time to do. For me, DOF isn't that big of an issue as 24p is. And if I set my Tv at 1/48, then I'm good to go. With the money I saved getting an HV20, I also bought an NTG-2 shotgun mic, shockmount, deadcat and Beachtek box. In a year or two, when the HV40/50 comes out, I'll be able to sell my HV20 and get a newer camera, and still have great audio all along. Also, the HV20 has HD, which, if you're shooting event videos to make money on the side, really helps, even if the end product is SD. To doubt that HD is THE future is unrealistic. Even if you never deliver one project in HD, it still gives you room to expand within the next 1-2 years. The thing with the XL2 is people buy it and then they realize that they've spent all their money; they can't buy anything else. By the time you are ready to sell it, HD will be everywhere, if it isn't almost there now, and despite being a great camera, its value will go down by at least 20% if not more. Granted the HV20's percentage will go down probably twice that, but then again, it's $2000 cheaper. If 24p and a decent picture is all that it really boils down to, get the HV20. If you're absolutely set on getting an XL2 (consider, even, the DVX100), then get a used one off of eBay for as cheap as possible. Sorry about this rambling, but I couldn't help myself. :-)

  3. I was the guy who told you that the Canon XL2 was being made without the 24p mode. I apologize if I am wrong, but here is where I heard it from:

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/33...

      Please click on the "features" tab, and read the second paragraph down, the one with the *. I think I totally had it wrong, so again I am sorry.  

        Another camcorder I recommend you to consider is the Panasonic AG-DVX100B. It is quite a bit cheaper, and also has the 24p. I was reading reviews on it and a lot of people recommend it over the XL2. Just something to consider.

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/40...

  4. well first of all, you don't need 24p unless you're gonna uprez and print to film.

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