Catholics: Where in the Bible does it bestow upon the pope the role of God's interpreter? ?

Question

In fact. Where is the idea of a pope even mentioned at all? Isn't religion supposed to be a spiritual bond between you and God, not you and some elected official in a robe and crown?

Answer 1

John 21:15-17 states:

When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you." He said to him, "Feed my lambs."

He then said to him a second time, "Simon, son of John, do you love me?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you." He said to him, "Tend my sheep."

He said to him the third time, "Simon, son of John, do you love me?" Peter was distressed that he had said to him a third time, "Do you love me?" and he said to him, "Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you." (Jesus) said to him, "Feed my sheep.

Matthew 16:17-19 states:

Jesus said to him in reply, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

The Catholic Church believes the Lord made Simon alone, whom he named Peter, the "rock" of his Church. He gave him the keys of his Church and instituted him shepherd of the whole flock.

The Pope is the senior pastor of 1.1 billion Catholic Christians, the direct successor of Simon Peter.

The Pope’s main roles include teaching, sanctifying, and governing.

For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, section 880-882: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1s...

With love in Christ.  

Answer 2

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Answer 3

The Pope is our head preacher or top minister.  The first Pope was Peter, Jesus commanded this when he told Peter that he was the rock upon which His church would be built.  Matt 16:18.  

Anyone who belongs to any church, has a preacher or minister and should understand why we have a church leader.  It's neccessary for Catholics to have a Church leader the same way that it is for Protestants.  The difference is that ours have a direct line to the command of Christ.  Here is a link to all of the Popes dating back to Peter.  http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.h...  (They also have biographies, if you click on their names.)  

The Pope doesn't stand between any of us and God anymore than your pastor stands between you and God.  Both men intend to help you get closer to God.  I really don't understand why some protestants are so confused that the Catholic Church has a leader.  All of their churches have leaders.

Answer 4

we see the Pope as the successor of St Peter.

Answer 5

The Bible says that the Church has all the authority on earth and what it binds on earth will be likewise bound in heaven. Christ gave to St. Peter the keys for leadership in the Church. The current Pope is the successor of St. Peter through apostolic succession which is also recorded in the book of Acts. St. Ignatius of Antioch early in the apostolic Church described the Church as those gathered around the bishop. Read your Bible without practicing eisegesis and learn the teaching of Jesus and the apostles instead of trying to impose your man-made ideas that are contrary to Christ's teaching and the teaching of His Church.

Answer 6

All houses need a visible leader, taken from Matthew 16:18 from www.drbo.org

16 Simon Peter answered and said: Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answering, said to him: Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven. 18 And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of h**l shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven. 20 Then he commanded his disciples, that they should tell no one that he was Jesus the Christ.

18 "Thou art Peter"... As St. Peter, by divine revelation, here made a solemn profession of his faith of the divinity of Christ; so in recompense of this faith and profession, our Lord here declares to him the dignity to which he is pleased to raise him: viz., that he to whom he had already given the name of Peter, signifying a rock, St. John 1. 42, should be a rock indeed, of invincible strength, for the support of the building of the church; in which building he should be, next to Christ himself, the chief foundation stone, in quality of chief pastor, ruler, and governor; and should have accordingly all fulness of ecclesiastical power, signified by the keys of the kingdom of heaven.

18 "Upon this rock"... The words of Christ to Peter, spoken in the vulgar language of the Jews which our Lord made use of, were the same as if he had said in English, Thou art a Rock, and upon this rock I will build my church. So that, by the plain course of the words, Peter is here declared to be the rock, upon which the church was to be built: Christ himself being both the principal foundation and founder of the same. Where also note, that Christ, by building his house, that is, his church, upon a rock, has thereby secured it against all storms and floods, like the wise builder, St. Matt. 7. 24, 25.

18 "The gates of h**l"... That is, the powers of darkness, and whatever Satan can do, either by himself, or his agents. For as the church is here likened to a house, or fortress, built on a rock; so the adverse powers are likened to a contrary house or fortress, the gates of which, that is, the whole strength, and all the efforts it can make, will never be able to prevail over the city or church of Christ. By this promise we are fully assured, that neither idolatry, heresy, nor any pernicious error whatsoever shall at any time prevail over the church of Christ.

19 "Loose upon earth"... The loosing the bands of temporal punishments due to sins, is called an indulgence; the power of which is here granted.

Verse with Catholic interpretation. Christ instituted His Church when He performed the Last Supper. Then before His Glorious Ascension He put His Church in the hands of St.Peter the first Pope of the Catholic Church, succeeded by Pope St. Linus. (see above verse.)

Pray the Rosary and receive the Sacraments for the glory of God in the Highest!

Kayla K you can't even speak english well, why would anyone want to listen to your anti-Catholic opinion? You see by focusing so much on the written word you neglect the just deserved glory and praise to Christ our Lord the Living Word. The Rosary is meditation of the bible. Every prayer and meditation prayed during the Rosary is focused on biblical events in the New Testament, the life, death and resurrection of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ 2nd person of the Most Holy and Majestic Trinity.

Answer 7

I can speak on this as an ex-catholic. It DON'T mention anything about a pope in the bible. Peter was an  APOSTLE or DISCIPLE, not a freaking pope. catholic church wasn't even 'invented' yet.They have corrupted books added to their bible, I know, I have one. There are 66 books in the bible that were approved of by bible scholars. I think theirs has 72, I have one but never read it :)..I don't believe in calling some freaking man 'father' nor 'holy father',nor do I believe in BOWING to the pope, or kneeling down and kissing his freaking germ infested ring.I used to be BRAINWASHED, just like them, and boy did I get angry when my husband told me this. I laugh at it now.I have but ONE Father, and He is in heaven.I confess my sins to God, not a priest, he don't have a private line to heaven any more than I do.I don't believe in the rituals in the rcc, which are many, such as easter, good friday. They believe that Jesus died on the cross on Good Friday and rose from the dead on Easter sunday..btw..easter was a mistranslation for Ishtar, which was the goddess of fertility.They also believe Jesus was in the tomb 3 days. Well, last time I counted, from Fri to Sat makes ONE day, from Sat. To Sun. makes TWO days, so where is the THIRD day?? They can't find it cause they got the wrong birth date for Christ. He was NOT born on Dec. 25. How many cattle do you see grazing in Dec.? even in Bethlehem?? None, because Jesus was CONCEIVED on Dec. 25, which can be followed through the bible if you go to the gospet where Mary goes and tells her cousin Elizabeth she is pregnant.  Jesus was born in late Sept. for the record.There is NO burning h**l, like they are taught, if you look up the word 'h**l' in a strongs concordance, which takes it back to its ORIGINAL LANGUAGE, you will see that 'h**l' translates to 'GRAVE', not some fiery hellhole. There IS however, a lake of fire, and the only soul that has been sentenced to the lake of fire and perdition (death) NOT a burning eternal h**l, is satan himself. You catholics really need to learn the bible for yourselves, not believe all that c**p the priest crams down your throats. Give me all the thumbs down you want, but what I have stated here is the truth, not what you believe to be truth coming from that church.

Answer 8

The Bible doesn't.  The Cardinal's do.

Answer 9

Peter and his successors were made leaders of the Church by Jesus before he died.  That is in the bible.  

Tradition teaches them the same thing.  (that's big T tradition, which is supposedly infallible)

That's an easy question.

EDIT:

Jesus gave all of Peter's successors the same 'keys' he gave Peter.  Any time the Pope makes a decision on spiritual matters, the holy spirit acts in him to make him infallible.  There have been false popes before, but the Catholic church only recognizes one at a time.  They also recognize that there have been corrupt popes too (i think).  But because the holy spirit acts in the Pope and those that chose him, he is god's infallible messenger.

Sure, your faith is between you and god, but he is there to guide them and lead them to the truth.

You don't believe it, obviously, nor do I.  But that's what they believe and they really don't rely on the bible much.  They even admit the bible has errors and that its more of a guide than any rule book.  Instead they rely on Tradition and the overall message.

Answer 10

I don't know if the pope can be called "God's interpreter", but the Bible indicates that Jesus left the Apostle Peter in charge, and that the Apostles had successors. "Pope" is just one of the titles of the successors of Peter.

“And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." (Matthew 16:18-19)

"Feed my lambs...tend my sheep...feed my sheep." (John 21:15-17)

“For it is written in the book of Psalms, `Let his habitation become desolate, and let there be no one to live in it'; and `His office let another take.'” (Acts 1:20)

  

Answer 11

The pope isn't the sole interpreter of the Bible; if that was the case it would be private interpretation which in 2 Peter 1:20 says there shouldn't be. The Church has the authority of biblical interpretation, because as it says in 1 (2?) Tim 3:15 , the Church is the bulwark and foundation of Truth.  In the Pauline epistles, it is obvious there are right and wrong ways of interpreting the Bible, and the authority comes down to Apostolic tradition (1 Cor 11:2, 2 Thess 2:15; 2 Thess 3:6; Jn 21:25; Acts 20:35; 2 Peter 3:15-17).  Even those of the Early Church, such as Origen (c. 230 AD - before the time of Constantine) said it was necessary to have tradition: "The teaching of the Church has indeed been handed down through an order of succession from the Apostles, and remains in the Churches even to the present time.  That alone is to be believed as truth which is in no way at variance with ecclesiastical and apostolic tradition." (Fundamental Doctrines 1, preface, 2).  

As for where the origin of the pope comes from, I'm sure many have already quoted Isaiah 22:19-23 and Matthew 16:13-20 and described the parallel.  However, this does not make Peter the sole interpreter of the Bible, but the pope, the vicar of Christ, who speaks on His behalf.  The Church is the sole interpreter of the Bible.

You are correct in saying that religion is supposed to be a spiritual bond between you and God, but it's not so simple to be with God.  He is all powerful, all mighty, all knowing, inexpressible divinity, perfect holiness, and beyond description.  What are you?  And who are you to interpret God's holy word?  Are you pure enough to say "This is Truth!"?  Do you know the mind of God that you can say what is His deepest thoughts?  

Answer 12

It doesn't say anything about the Pope in the Bible. It's just more Catholic make believe.

Answer 13

Matthew 16:18  And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of h**l shall not prevail against it.

Peter was given all spiritual authority by Jesus, and he passed that authority down to his successors, the men now known as the Popes. Is that Scriptural enough for you?

And to answer your second question, the primary function of religion is about knowing God's will and obeying His commandments, not giving us some fuzzy wuzzy feel good "bond," as you call it. A lot of religions may pander to your emotions and make you feel good, but that doesn't mean that they're pleasing to God.

Edit:

You praise a post from someone who is obviously anti-Catholic and ignore the rest of the posts. That  tells me that you didn't want a real answer from a knowledgeable Catholic.

You just wanted your own "Amen!" corner, even if its only occupant is a semi-literate Catholic hater.

Answer 14

Saint Peter was the first Pope, he was charged by Jesus along with the other apostles to spread the word of God, this tradition continued through the years and is the role that the current pope plays.

Catholics don't maintain that the Pope is specifically mentioned in the Bible

Answer 15

He isint.  

Answer 16

Where does the Bible use the word "rapture"?

Where does the Bible use the word "trinity" ?

The word "pope" doesn't have to be in the Bible for the principles to be there....and they clearly are.

Peter was first among the apostles - he was the first to confess Jesus as God and Jesus says to him "Blessed are you Simon Peter for no man has revealed this to you but God." This is the first instance of a pope uttering an infallible statement of faith and morals.

In Matthew 16 Jesus further expounds on Peter's earthly authority. Jesus is the head of the Church - the Popes are His vicars on Earth. Jesus said to Peter and his successors the Popes "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." (Matthew 16:18-19)

Peace be to you all+

Answer 17

Religion has been twisted, turned, added to and edited to. There's more bulls*it in religion (like Pope) than anything else.

Answer 18

I believe it was the time Jesus said to St. Peter, You are my rock and upon this rock I will build my church. The Jesus handed the keys to St. Peter and said. What you hold bound is held bound in heaven and what you hold loosed is held loosed in heaven. This is where Jesus gave the power of interpertation to St. Peter, Our first Pope. In fact that was one of our gosples this week. God Bless you.

Answer 19

sigh........

Jesus gave Peter special authority among the apostles (John 21:15–17) and signified this by changing his name from Simon to Peter, which means "rock" (John 1:42). He said Peter was to be the rock on which he would build his Church (Matt. 16:18).

In Aramaic, the language Jesus spoke, Simon’s new name was Kepha (which means a massive rock). Later this name was translated into Greek as Petros (John 1:42) and into English as Peter. Christ gave Peter alone the "keys of the kingdom" (Matt. 16:19) and promised that Peter’s decisions would be binding in heaven. He also gave similar power to the other apostles (Matt. 18:18), but only Peter was given the keys, symbols of his authority to rule the Church on earth in Jesus’ absence.

Christ, the Good Shepherd, called Peter to be the chief shepherd of his Church (John 21:15–17). He gave Peter the task of strengthening the other apostles in their faith, ensuring that they taught only what was true (Luke 22:31–32). Peter led the Church in proclaiming the gospel and making decisions (Acts 2:1– 41, 15:7–12).

Early Christian writings tell us that Peter’s successors, the bishops of Rome (who from the earliest times have been called by the affectionate title of "pope," which means "papa"), continued to exercise Peter’s ministry in the Church.

The pope is the successor to Peter as bishop of Rome. The world’s other bishops are successors to the apostles in general.

As from the first, God speaks to his Church through the Bible and through sacred Tradition. To make sure we understand him, he guides the Church’s teaching authority—the magisterium—so it always interprets the Bible and Tradition accurately. This is the gift of infallibility.

Like the three legs on a stool, the Bible, Tradition, and the magisterium are all necessary for the stability of the Church and to guarantee sound doctrine.

Sacred Tradition and the Bible are not different or competing revelations. They are two ways that the Church hands on the gospel. Apostolic teachings such as the Trinity, infant baptism, the inerrancy of the Bible, purgatory, and Mary’s perpetual virginity have been most clearly taught through Tradition, although they are also implicitly present in (and not contrary to) the Bible. The Bible itself tells us to hold fast to Tradition, whether it comes to us in written or oral form (2 Thess. 2:15, 1 Cor. 11:2).

Sacred Tradition should not be confused with customs and disciplines, such as the rosary, priestly celibacy, and not eating meat on Fridays in Lent. These are good and helpful things, but they are not doctrines. Sacred Tradition preserves doctrines first taught by Jesus to the apostles and later passed down to us through the apostles’ successors, the bishops.

Together the pope and the bishops form the teaching authority of the Church, which is called the magisterium (from the Latin for "teacher"). The magisterium, guided and protected from error by the Holy Spirit, gives us certainty in matters of doctrine. The Church is the custodian of the Bible and faithfully and accurately proclaims its message, a task which God has empowered it to do.

Keep in mind that the Church came before the New Testament, not the New Testament before the Church. Divinely-inspired members of the Church wrote the books of the New Testament, just as divinely-inspired writers had written the Old Testament, and the Church is guided by the Holy Spirit to guard and interpret the entire Bible, both Old and New Testaments.

Such an official interpreter is absolutely necessary if we are to understand the Bible properly. (We all know what the Constitution says, but we still need a Supreme Court to interpret what it means.)

None of that deters a person fromo a spiritual bond with God - in fact, it strengthens that bond.  

Answer 20

Mathew 16:18-20

Peter was the first pope and that is a fact whether you believe it or not.  The popes after Peter were his successors.  You can google the meaning of Apostolic succession.  You can also google the papacy or the list of popes.

  

Answer 21

The church of Rome held a special place of honor among the earliest Christian churches. It was first among the communities that recognized each other as catholic churches holding the orthodox faith concerning God's Gospel in Jesus. According to St Ignatius, the bishop of Antioch who died a martyr's death in Rome around the year 110, "the church which presides in the territories of the Romans" was "a church worthy of God, worthy of honor, worthy of felicitation, worthy of praise, worthy of success, worthy of sanctification, and presiding in love, maintaining the law of Christ, bearer of the Father's name." The Roman church held this place of honor and exercised a "presidency in love" among the first Christian churches for two reasons. It was founded on the teaching and blood of the foremost Christian apostles Peter and Paul. And it was the church of the capital city of the Roman empire that then constituted the "civilized world (oikoumene)."

According to St Irenaeus of Lyons, the first bishop of Rome was a certain Linus. He was technically Rome's first bishop since the apostles were not overseers of local churches. Their unique and universal apostolic ministry, particularly that of the Twelve led by Peter, was to be foundation stones of God's household as eyewitnesses and servants of the risen Lord, the Church's cornerstone. (Eph 2.20)

Linus and the bishops of Rome who followed him, many of whom are canonized saints, were successors of the apostles together with all orthodox bishops in catholic churches. They were also, like all bishops with whom they held the Church's one episcopate in solidum (an expression of St. Cyprian of Carthage), successors of Peter because they confessed Peter's faith that Jesus is "the Christ, the Son of the living God." (Mt 16.16) Like all catholic bishops holding the orthodox faith, the bishops of the Roman church received the Holy Spirit through the apostolic laying-on-of-hands (cheirotonia) to "bind and loose" human sins. (Mt 16.19, Jn 20.22-23) They did this by preaching the God's Gospel in Christ, teaching sound doctrine, conducting right worship, shepherding the faithful, caring for the poor and needy regardless of their belief or behavior, and generally safeguarding "what had been entrusted" to them: "the good deposit (bonum depositum, kale paratheke)" that dwelt in them "through the Holy Spirit." (1Tim 6.30, 2Tim 1.14) They also supervised the baptisms of repenting believers into Christ in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. They sealed the newly-baptized with the gift of the Holy Spirit. They fed them the "bread of life" that is Jesus himself, God's incarnate Word, through their preaching and teaching. And they nourished the faithful with Christ's body and blood at the eucharistic meal that anticipates the marriage supper of Christ, the Lamb of God, in God's coming kingdom at the end of the ages.

The orthodox bishops in catholic churches also all had the duty to reunite those who strayed, and to reconcile believing sinners to Christ through appropriate therapeutic penances. They were also obliged to defend the Christian faith against heretical teachers, most of whom were originally brother bishops. They rebuked and corrected erring and evil secular rulers. They made apologies for the Gospel to non-Christians. And they represented their churches in the societies in which they lived. In a word, all Christian bishops were ordained to preserve the unity, identity, integrity, solidarity, and continuity of Christ's church and ministry on earth until the Lord's coming. But the Roman bishops were to do so, as we have already noted, in a unique and special way, both for those within the faith and those outside it, because they were the overseers of the church founded by Christ's preeminent apostles Peter and Paul that was located in the capital of the empire that was identified with the whole "civilized world," in the city that symbolized the "end of the earth." (Acts 1.8)

Because of its unique place among the Christian churches, the church of Rome in the person of its bishop was soon tempted to assume powers, prerogatives and privileges among the churches beyond those belonging to its ministry to preside among them in love. The temptation to assume a special authoritative status among the churches beyond loving presidential leadership did not go unchallenged. We see attempts to control this tendency, for example, by such great bishops as St. Cyprian of Carthage in North Africa in the 3rd century, and St. Photios the Great of Constantinople in the 9th, and perhaps most especially by Pope St. Gregory the Great of Rome itself who in the 6th century formulated his celebrated definition of a Christian bishop as "the servant of the servants of God (servus servorum Dei)" in his powerful polemic against the bishop of Constantinople, the New Rome, for adopting the title "ecumenical." But the temptation to usurp unwarranted hierarchal authority and administr

Answer 22

The office of Pope is completely made up. Its not in the bible except that the apostle Peter was placed in charge of the church after Jesus ascended back into heaven and he is considered the first pope. The pope used to be considered "god's interpreter: but  Vatican II changed that to "the pope is infallible". Its all a bunch of BS.

Answer 23

For Kayla K....you should have paid more attention a school..

God save us from "former Catholics" who claim to "know" the Catholic faith, but obviously don't ... and from those who claim to be former Catholics, but are merely liars and fools.



Around or about 45 AD, Peter went to Rome and from there lead the Catholic Church. As of today, there have been 263 Popes in direct succession to Peter. The position of Pope was established by Christ and the office has been maintained in an apostolic manner since the time of Christ.

The title pope, once used with far greater latitude is at present employed solely to denote the Bishop of Rome, who, in virtue of his position as successor of St. Peter, is the chief pastor of the whole Church, the Vicar of Christ upon earth.The Pope is Jesus' representative on Earth.

Read your Bible without practicing eisegesis and learn the teaching of Jesus and the apostles instead of trying to impose your man-made ideas that are contrary to Christ's teaching and the teaching of His Church.

Answer 24

You could have found all of this with about 30 seconds and a browser.

The idea is that the Pope's authority is handed down from St. Peter, to whom Jesus made the famous "Bound on Earth, bound in heaven" statement.

If you want a more complete explanation, Wikipedia is your friend

Answer 25

Did you know the bible was destroyed in the middle of the year 400a.d-600a.d? The bible we know now-a-days are compilations of found scriptures and "prophets" that have given word saying it is from divine source.

We don't really know the truth even if we wanted, and the first Bible nonetheless was released by the Catholics around 800a.d..

Answer 26

Good! More doctrinal squabbling amongst Gods chosen ones -when they decide exactly who that is of course! And you wonder why we atheists mock?

Answer 27

Jesus at once ordains St. Peter prior to his passion and death.  the descripotion is both an outline of the prescribed manner for pasing this ordiantion process on and specific wrods that have meaning between Jesus and his bride the chruch that he came to found.

A- Jesus said you are paeter and upon this rock I sahll build my church, fundies love to miss the point by quibbling ofver the greek, tranlation for rock, but Jesus spoke aramiac and the oldest known transltion of the gosople tof St. Matthew was written in aramiac, but that doesn't matter because we were there.

B- Jesus ordains St. Peter first and in the same manner as he ordained ther remaining 10 when he rose from the dead, who's sins you forgive are forgiven who's sins you reatin are reained, whoever he gives St. Peter a little something extra, whatever you bind on earth shal be bound in heaven, whatever you lose on earth sahll be losed in heaven, then he says I give you the keys to the kingdom.  Whenver Jesus mentions the kingdom of God/Heaven he is eaither speaking about his heavnly knigdom or his kingdom on earth -- the church he came to found the catholic church, so Jesus gave St. peter the keys to what kingdom -- his kingdom on earth, jesues knew he was oging to the father and  the father already has the keys to his kingdom in heaven, so he made St. peter the first Pope by giving him the keys to his kingdom on earth and saying whatever you bind onearth sahll be bound in heave, whatever you lose on earth shall be losed in heave.  Now he aslo did many things that we did not write down, but this we did.

NOW WHAT PART OF THIS ARE YOU HAVING DIFFICULTY UNDESTANDING??????? WHAT IS AMBIGOUSOUS i GIVE YOU THE KEYS TO MY KINGDOM ON EARTH ... HERE PETER YOU'RE IN CHARGE , WHAT IS MORE WHATEVER YOU BIND ON EARTH SAHLL BE BOUND IN HEAVE WHATEVER YOU LOSE ON EARTH SAHLL BE LOSED IN HEAVEN ... DAH INCLUDING YOUR SUCCESION ... YOU'RE INFALLIABLE WHEN COMES TO MATTERS OF MY KINGDOM PETE ???

WHAT PART OF THIS IS UNCLEAR TO YOU????

I mean what else does Jesus have to say about this for you to understand, how clear could it be.  Petrian primacy is one of the most clear doctrines and easy to understand in all of scripture, and that includes both the old and the new testament.  I mean if you don't get this right what teh heck are you reading.  How could Jesus have said this any clearer, serioulsy how could he have made his intenetion to make St. Peter the first Pope any more plain????  How could you miss or question this doctrine??? It's unblieveable, what do you study.  It's like what Jesus aid to Nicodemus, you're a teacher of Isrteal and you don't know this.  If you can't grasp this simplest of concepts than you have no understanding whatsoever of the bible, yet you shout WE SEE WE SEE

I mean serisouly, did we not write this plainly enough for you to understand?  The event happend, Jesus did this to St. Peter, we observed it, we wrote it down for posterity ...  what don't you get???

The New Testament is true becasue the catholic church says it is true, we are it's authentication, we were there we wrote ... It is meaningless babel without us ... ARE YOU GETTING THIS?

Sola Scriptura ?

Go get a copy of the marine corp. manual, take it home study it. Don't forget to rip out the five chapters that contradict what you are doing.

Get other people together to study it, implement it in your life, get the people who you study it with to implement it in there lives.

Oh, don’t forget to get your official marine corps manual concordance, so you can look up words and phrases like “simper fi”, “Iwo Jima”, “Helmet”, “Grenade”, and “Honor”,  etc.  

Now does this make you guys marines?

I think not.

You are missing pretty much everything that it means to be a marine. You haven't had the training that they have done for years you don't have the history -- the understanding of what it means to BE a marine as passed on from the founder of the marine corp to his first lieutenants and on down through the ranks through the years – the direct link to the founder of the marine corp. and writers of the manual, nor do you have  the word of mouth testimony (those unwritten instructions that the founder himself – who by the way did not write the manual -- passed on to his first lieutenants, things the marines have been doing for years),  nor do you have the true meaning of what the manual says. Because, of course, outside of the marine corp., the manual is MEANINGLESS.

People who belong to bible studying fellowships who believe in the doctrine of solely scripture, scripture first, scripture only -- sola scriptura are no more Christians than are the people who got together to study the marine manual are marines.  

Now that you and your friends have studied the marine corp manual. Go out in front of a marine corp. recruiting station and as people walk in hand them a tract from the manual and get them to come join you. Go to a marine corp. camp and do the same thing see if they will join you marine corp. manual studying fellowship. But don't call yourselves that. Call yourselves, "marines". Go to the veterans day parade and hand out tracts from the manual there, and tell them to come to your marine barracks. Let people know that you have the way that all they have to do is study the manual with you and they too can be marines.

Oh yes and erect marine corp. manual studying colleges and graduate what?

Experts in misunderstanding the marine corp. manual.

And OHHHH yes don't forget to call yourselves not just marines but "heroes(saints)", because after all everyone who is part of your marine corp., manual studying fellowship is a "hero(saint)", after all the manual says that doesn't it?  Forget about honoring real marine “Heroes(Saints)” like Colonel Louis C. Plain and Gunnery Sergeant John Basilone;  or Gunnery Sergeant Donald A. Levesque (RET); or Marine Cpl. Jason Dunham ... etc.; for after all the manual tells us not to do that, right?

Then, go up to a real marine (if you dare) tell them what you are doing, and ask them what is wrong with it?

Answer 28

Pope Clement 1 the first "proved" the resurrection was true by citing the "true" example of the Phoenix bird, which he said was reborn every 500th year! Clement XXV-XXVI.

Answer 29

It's in the Gospels. When Jesus gave Peter the keys to Heaven and tells him, "upon this rock you will build my church" or something like that.

Peter was the first Pope that there was, and that was because Jesus himself put him in that position.

If you have any more Catholic like questions I'd be glad to answer them.

Kristen

15-year-old Catholic