Challenging a member of a martial arts dojo?

Question

not the sensie but a black belt. I have my reasons and the details are not neccary. Also I live in the united states.

Answer 1

I agree definetly a bad idea.

Answer 2

Why would you want to?  It's childish and not appropriate dojo/dojang behavior.

Are you a black belt?  I doubt it otherwise you wouldn't be showing this immature attitude. You should know that if you're a colored belt you're supposed to respect senior ranks (all ranks for that matter).  A bad attitude gets you nowhere in martial arts....it can (and most likely will) get you hurt.  

Anyway, most dojo/dojangs spar with upper ranks as a learning tool.  It kinda reinforces the idea that there's always someone else out there bigger & badder than you.  It makes you a better fighter, however, it is up to the instructor to determine who you spar.  It's not for you to have the attitude of I'm going to fight this black belt to show I'm the better fighter.  The important thing is to learn to defend yourself the best you can.  

That attitude at my school will get you push ups the entire class.

Answer 3

you should rethink that idea

Answer 4

The only way to legitimately get away with this is to find out what tournament the black belt participates in and try to get a match there.  See if they have an open division, do the proper work necesary to qualify and hope you face him in that division.  You may find that in the process of training, your vendetta is foolish.  Which it is.

Otherwise, he's not going to fight you unless he is a fool.  

Now if he has done something that by social custom deserves a beat down (and these things involve an act that is probably best addressed by law enforcement), you have already lost your chance.  If he's committed a crime, do like everybody else and file charges.  

If by some odd chance he will fight you, he's probably going to hurt you.  Bad.  Don't pay attention to the people who tell you how traditional martial arts are ineffective against badass streetfighters, yadda, yadda.  Mr. blackbelt probably has heard that too and may have taken the steps necessary to fill in those holes in his training.  If he agrees to a fight with you, that means it's highly likely he's a competent fighter AND a black belt.  

What you don't know is that in some schools----or dare I say, entire styles----there is a face they put on for the public and lower ranks, and there is how they really feel about fighting.   There are loads of teachers who say "oh, karate-do is for peace" or whatever, while deep down inside, if you cross them, they will beat you like Charlie Murphy beat Rick James.   This is not to say that they will not still go through all of the hoops of severely avoiding the conflict.   If they try at least three different attempts at not fighting and you still are buck, they will feel as if it is time for them to "karatecize yo' @ss".  

What hurts even more than a whipping is when they hurt your feelings so bad by blatantly moving you around without physical harm that you know they could have destroyed you.  Example:  a 6'6" bum tried to out-muscle a 5' 5" Korean TKD master in the master's grocery store.  All I saw the master do was come in at the bum on an angle, trap the bum's hands in the bum's own face, and keep slapping him and slapping him with a back-hand (pimpish slap, hence the Rick James reference) as he eased the guy out onto the street.  The master's wife rolled her eyes and shook her head in annoyance at her husband.   I stood there totally stunned, because I recognized those moves from a form but had never seen them used FOR REAL.  

So think about the challenge.  It is not worth it.  Even if you win, it is not worth it.  If  you win, and think it will be cool to go around beating up black belts, you will do so until you run into one who's dieing to try out some technique he's been working on----on a sucker with a bad attitude.

Answer 5

Is this a Dojo-storm or just a fight against some kid in MA?

If you're asking whether or not a Black Belt is "too deadly" for you to even consider getting into a fight with, the short answer is probably not.

On the other hand, you shouldn't be fighting in the first place.

Answer 6

You should totally go for it. Let me know how it works out

Answer 7

The only way you will improve is by defeating more powerful enemies. Make sure you have some cool music going in the background.

Answer 8

bad idea

Answer 9

Completely juvenile.

If you do this at the dojo, you'll probably be laughed right out of it.

Newsflash: You're not in XVIIth century Japan.

Answer 10

Pride can be a very dangerous character defect.

Challenge yourself.

Answer 11

If you're a black belt then go for it, if not I suggest you don't waste your time.