Chapter 9 Verse 30 is it a generalization or not?

Question

The author of the Quran states in Chapter 9 Verse 30:

AND THE JEWS SAY: EZRA IS THE SON OF ALLAH, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!

Whenever I pose this verse to a Muslim they say something along the lines of "the Quran is talking about a group of Jews at Muhammad's time". Fair enough. Good explanation.

But a slight problem. Right next to Ezra, Jesus is mentioned. And as we all know Jesus is regarded as the son of God by Christians.

So is it fair to put a herectical group's belief of one religion on par with the fundamental beliefs of another?

But what about Shia Muslims? Do not certain groups of Shia use their Imams as intermediates to reach Allah?

So would this (made up) verse be considered valid and correct?

AND THE JEWS SAY: EZRA IS THE SON OF ALLAH, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah, AND THE MUSLIMS SAY: THEIR IMAMS ARE THE SONS OF ALLAH. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!

As you can see in my (made up) verse I said "THE MUSLIMS" meaning all Muslims use the Imams as intermediates.

Would it be fair of me to judge a whole religion on a specific group of heretics?

If no, then why does the author of the Quran make such a generalization of Jews.

Therefore confusing the reader into thinking that all Jews worship Ezra?

Answer 1

Well, ALL Christians don't think the same. Even now there exist groups (though they be small) that consider Jesus as a prophet. It all depends on the history of Christianity and how it become today's version(s). I advise you to read this book (which contains a fair collection of quotes from (mostly) knowledgeable Christian scholars) on Christianity and its history written by two Muslim converts. It is titled "Before Nicea":

http://www.mediafire.com/?cxxyxxlkqqk

Note: This is not a Muslim propaganda book and you can confirm this by reading about 10 pages or less of it.

Answer 2

Not all Christians consider Jesus to be the literal "son" of God. But to say that Christians say that is true.

Likewise, not all Jews consider Uzayr to be the literal "son" of God.

Because if you happened to have read the whole Qur'an, it mentions that not all Jews and Christians are equal.

"Not all of them (Jews and Christians) are alike; a party of the people of the Scripture stand for the right, they recite the Verses of Allah during the hours of the night, prostrating themselves in prayer.

They believe in Allah and the Last Day; they enjoin Al-Ma'ruf (Islamic Monotheism, and following Prophet Muhammad SAW) and forbid Al-Munkar (polytheism, disbelief and opposing Prophet Muhammad [peace be upon him]); and they hasten in (all) good works; and they are among the righteous.

And whatever good they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for Allah knows well those who are the pious."

(Qur'an 3:113-115)

Answer 3

This verse was revealed for the group called Bani Khuzaa,

and this verse was revealed for small group of people in Bani Khuzaa,

Second Refutation:-

This verse can also refer to "Oserous" and he was called the son of God

Third Refutation:-

Son Of God can also mean "Child Of God" which means that they lifted Ezra above the level of humans,,,,

Fourth Refutation:-

Who said that Shias are right when they do things like Christians do to Jesus Christ??

Take a look at the next verse and it will become crystal clear that the way Shia glorify their Imams are wrong.....

Answer 4

Ayah you quoted in Quran is written by Allah Himself.  If you have

objection with Allah, you should wait till you face Allah and then ask Him.



If you add  something at the end of this Ayah and call it written by

God, then you will have to answer God when you will face Him, be prepared to give Him answer,  If you are non-Muslim rejector of Islam, you will already be doomed to h**l.  Your this addition in Allah's

writing will be in bigger trouble.

Answer 5

Imams are not the sons of God.

It's forbidden to associate them with God or put them in partnership with God.

That's one of the greatest sins you could commit in Islam.

Imams are people who are very knowledgable in the religion, and their hearts are very close to God.

So people go to them for advice.

Even the Prophet (pbuh) declared that he is a human, just like us and that he is just as accountable for his actions as we are.

He was not born divine. His blood is not divine, he had good and bad decendants. And they are all on our level.

The Christians believe in the divinity of Christ.

Jesus (pbuh), is believed by the Christians to be god, and the son of god at the same time, and that god came here and sacrificed himself for us.

Some Christians sacrifice a human being every year, like in the Philipines.

Some Christians believe that cutting their skin and inserting an amulet will bring them closer to Jesus..

In Islam we have NOTHING like that..

One Book, not 4.

One God, not 3 that make 1.

One guideline, not 38409234 sects and 90853458 subsects in each sect.

God knows best.

Answer 6

Quran is an eternal message for all humanity. You make a good point. I saw this on answering-islam website before, which showed that most translators actually deliberately mistranslate this verse to say "some jews say" or "Ezra is a son" rather than "the son". It's a malicious mistranslation because Christians and Jesus are mentioned right after it and the Arabic grammar is identical, yet those translators change the grammer anyway thinking noone will notice (like Yusuf Ali). Very strange indeed.

Answer 7

[6:26] They repel others from this (Quran), as they themselves stay away from it, and thus, they only destroy themselves without perceiving.

[6:27] If only you could see them when they face the hellfire! They would say then, "Woe to us. Oh, we wish we could go back, and never reject our Lord's revelations, and join the believers."

[6:28] As a matter of fact, (they only say this because) their secrets have been exposed. If they go back, they will commit exactly the same crimes. They are liars.

[6:29] They say (subconsciously), "We live only this life; we will not be resurrected."

[6:30] If you could only see them when they stand before their Lord! He would say, "Is this not the truth?" They would say, "Yes, by our Lord." He would say, "You have incurred the retribution by your disbelief."

[6:31] Losers indeed are those who disbelieve in meeting GOD, until the Hour comes to them suddenly, then say, "We deeply regret wasting our lives in this world." They will carry loads of their sins on their backs; what a miserable load!

[6:68] If you see those who mock our revelations, you shall avoid them until they delve into another subject. If the devil causes you to forget, then, as soon as you remember, do not sit with such evil people.

[6:69] The righteous are not responsible for the utterances of those people, but it may help to remind them; perhaps they may be saved.

[6:70] You shall disregard those who take their religion in vain, as if it is a social function, and are totally absorbed in this worldly life. Remind with this (Quran), lest a soul may suffer the consequences of its evil earnings. It has none beside GOD as a Lord and Master, nor an intercessor. If it could offer any kind of ransom, it would not be accepted. They suffer the consequences of the evil works they earn; they have incurred hellish drinks, and a painful retribution because of their disbelief.

Answer 8

There is a big difference between Tawassul:Wasila and regarding someone the Son of God or a God, we recognize that this power of intersession is given only by Allah if he wills, ans we know that these Imam are the servants of Allah and do not create nothing, and that they them selves are created, and whatever knowledge they have, it is given to them by Allah. On the other had christian believe Jesus is the son of God, so he is a mini sort of God, that has created the earth, if you ask a christian who made the sun he will tell you Jesus.

Answer 9

The Jews[of Madinah at the time of prophet], they claimed that `Uzayr was the son of God, Allah is free of what they attribute to Him. As for the misguidance of Christians over `Isa, it is obvious. This is why Allah declared both groups to be liars,

ذلِكَ قَوْلُهُم بِأَفْوَهِهِمْ

(That is their saying with their mouths), but they have no proof that supports their claim, other than lies and fabrications,