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Charles, Diana and Camilla?

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When Princess Diana was alive and married to Prince Charles, i have read stories saying Charles had an affair with Camilla - 'there was three of us in the relationship'. My question is - how can harry and william accept Camilla - the woman who wrecked their mothers life and how can people like Charles when he is a womaniser (not literally speaking)?

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  1. my mom usually tells me that we have to forgive to be happy, is not my casem I can stand that ugly B&^%$ Camilla and that stupid charles, even Lady Di everybody says that she was a cheater, I am pretty sure that she couldn't take it anymore, been cheated since the first day the enter that Malignous, cold and racist palace, God bless her soul and her children, and I hope Charles Camilla pay for what they did to her, you see is not my case when my mother advice me that, whosoever did the crime has to pay the price.


  2. His brother's ginger dad might have something to do with it.

  3. all i am saying, is charles knew camilla before she married,and before he married diana, charles was 16yrs old when he first met camillaand fell in love with her,

        he was having an affair with camilla while she was married to mr parker bowles,but charles was not allowed to marry her as she had a bad reputation.

    and poor diana did love charles but he wouldn't give up camilla.

      and for those of you who say diana had affairs yes she did but only after charles and the family treating her so bad,in fact diana went to the queen and phillip and told them she wasn't prepared to go on married to charles while he was seeing camilla.

    diana was then told to get on with her life, and say nothing as it was normal for royalty to have a mistress.

    phillip had so many affairs but the queen had to say nothing but get on with her life. so i don't blame diana one bit for having affairs but only after her marrige broke down,

       and they tried to make diana sound as if she was going mad. so then they could put her in a mental institution until she died.and that didn't work as by now diana could see what was happening,and got the strength she needed to over come these problems,

      aand she did they were saying diana was weak and crack under the pressure.

    but she turned out better than thought.and i was so glad to see it.

    how many of you would sit at home and see the man you love still having the affair he was having.

  4. Because they are not as stupid as those of you who read the gossip columns and believe every word.

    They love their father and can see that Camilla makes him happy. Therefore they accept Camilla. By all accounts she's a very caring and pleasant woman - they might actually like her!

    One affair does not a womaniser make - and Diana was hardly Snow White, was she? I seem to remember she was regarded as manipulative, duplicitous and unstable until a car crash conferred sainthood upon her.

    Camilla - the woman who wrecked their mother's life! You don't really believe that c**p, do you?

  5. Because Harry and William are mindless pricks!  As for Charles he is just a sexually impotent mommy chaser!

  6. If there is one person that I have no respect for, it is that pri.ck Charles, he married Diana knowing that he did not love her and never would, he was seeing the horse at the same time he was seeing Diana.

    And it isn`t it quite funny how Harry and William look like they have different fathers :-O

  7. It's true Charles had an affair with her but not that it ruined Diana's life!!!! She didn't marry Charles because she loved him, (she even made a play for Andrew first) and knew that he loved Camilla and that it wasn't really over between them. The affair started after the marriage began to fall apart. It was a marriage of convenience as most 'Heir to the throne' marriages are!!!

    Have you thought that all William and Harry want is for their father (who they love deeply) to be happy? Perhaps they know themselves that the Marriage wasn't the great Love Affair the public wish it had been?

    A womaniser by the way is someone who has several affairs not someone who had one, and flirts with most women they meet. Not really a description of Charles, is it?  Diana certainly wasn't innocent. In any other relationship the woman who had several affairs, whether her husband was the first to stray or not, would be labelled a 'tart' or worse!!!

    I know I'll get lots of thumbs down for my answer but it's time people remembered that just because they were Royalty doesn't mean they were worse or better than any other couple!

  8. I love, love, love, love Diana, don't get me wrong.  But she was human, as are Charles and Camilla.  She made mistakes.  She had her affair.  She admitted to that.  You can't hold just one person responsible for the distruction of that marriage.  Two people are in a marriage.  In the end, neither of them could make it work.

  9. I think they really have no choice it's their father's choice and they have to go along with it no matter what, they are royalty remember.

  10. Write a book why don't you Sharmel! j/k

    I'm with Sharm/ not.

  11. Protocol...but if I was the daughter.  I'd made her life a living h**l!!!

    I don't get why all this thumbs down?  Ladies, if it happened to you?  Let's say you love somebody and marry him, but you did not know he loved somebody else..and he continues to love her (I acknowledge he was also a victim), and she continues to be her lover.  You in desperation, play the same game and all your foundations crumble....and only focus on your kids...then one day you day...and loves goes on merry, merry....he finally marries his true love.

    What happens with my children...Camilla should have said no..let's try to find another way...not trashing her dignity even in death!!!  So, yes if I was one of the kids..I would have made her life impossible...

  12. Charles affair with Camilla was already in full swing by the time of the wedding. In fact, Camilla & Charles spent his last night as a single man together (not a rumour. I was told by someone that worked for charles at the time).

    William & Harry are probably aware that their father is going to be with Camilla not matter what they think & are being the bigger people by accepting her into their lives to keep him happy.

  13. I wondered the same thing. How can the princes be so accepting of their fathers betrayal with that S****y w***e camilla. I would never accept it if my dad did that to my mum. Happily for me my folks loved each other and even tho my dad died my dear old mum still talks about him lovingly.

  14. charles not only had an affair with camilla, it continued for over 3 decades, regardless that she was married with children & even as he married diana!

    mr skeptic, you must have missed the obvious that the rest of us saw.

    diana turned up to an official charity function to give a talk, she stood grief-stricken, unable to hold it in any more.

    she realised she'd been shafted by the institution of the monarchy, with all it's hate & it's spite.  

    she was after all only a baby-incubator to provide the house of Winsor with a heir, she'd fulfilled that & she was to be side-lined for one charlie really only ever wanted, all along, camilla.

    it's also a little known fact that the pain was made worse for diana & it's still kept out of the equation she & camilla are related.  

    to be betrayed by your husband & his family but by one of your own relations, must have been more than heart-breaking!

    if you take the time to find it.  look out for the charles & dianas engagement picture, released by the palace.

    body language gives charlie away.  & the disinterested look upon his face.  

    the lot of them used diana & discarded her once they'd finished, but they under-estimated

    the general public, who showed her the love & respect she never got from them.

    charlie was a womaniser, he just had the means & the funds to keep it secret!

  15. They were brainwashed by their great-grandmother........the so-called Queen Mother....she was the one who used to run the show!

  16. I wonder the same thing, I would give her h**l

  17. The princes side with their father because it would be very problematic for royalty - and also there is money involved.   We all know Diana died because she couldn't be at home with her husband and children.  Why?  Because her husband  breached their contract of marriage - which caused her to look elsewhere, to be in French tunnel on that night.  He had a choice when Camilla kept coming around, and he chose Camilla - an outdoorsy, intellectual and ravishing beauty (ha!).

  18. Thy just move on... the most important thing is... Will & Harry will never stop loving her Mom

  19. I think that William and Harry are rational enough to realize that their father and Camilla are human and they make mistakes just like everyone else. Don't get me wrong - I don't think they exactly embraced Camilla in the beginning. But they matured and realized that she makes their father happy, so they had to accept her if they love their father.  It's not that they are being disloyal to their mother. But they probably feel compelled to accept Camilla because she is their father's one true love.

    I don't think Charles is a womanizer per se - he has been truly in love with Camilla for years. But the Royal Family would never allow the union due to Camilla's divorced status. The Royals are extremely manipulative, controlling, and dangerous. I still believe they had something to do with Diana's death. The reason is that Princess Diana was pregnant at the time of her death with Dodi Fayed's baby, and the Royal Family simply could not tolerate their precious bloodline being "contaminated" by an Arab Muslim. These  elitists are downright fanatical about protecting their bloodline. But that's an entirely different thread! :)

  20. I completely agree with you, Sharmel, that is a very good analysis of the whole sad business.

    Just one sidenote - Edward VIII's abdication was far more complex than "the woman he loved" bit. Wallis Simpson was not only American (so not acceptable to the middle and lower class) but twice divorced (completely unacceptable to the Church of England, of which Edward was the head). In addition, Edward was a n**i sympathizer and had already revealed state secrets at drunken parties. Official state papers were left lying around where anyone could read them, and at last the Foreign Office was forced to conceal papers from the King, to prevent them being leaked.

    Edward was quick to use all the perogatives of royalty, but he didn't want to undertake the daily grind of business that goes with it. He was a noted miser who paid his servants less than the standard wage, while he covered Wallis with priceless jewels. He would have been a disaster as King, just as his father King George V predicted.

    After his abdication, he and Wallis lived a completely selfish and self-centred life - the Paris Hiltons of their day.

  21. it is no bodies business but theirs so nobody has a right to poke thier noses in.

  22. Bullshit.     Camilla  never  wrecked  anybody's  life,  least of  all Diana's.       Charles'  life  was  wrecked  methodically  from the  day  that   poor  guy  was born,  and    the  job   began   conditioning    him  and   indoctrinating him    into a position in life  he never  wanted.     He  was  told  what  to do, what  to  say, what to think   and    in the end,   the  British  Authorities   demanded  that  he   get off his butt  and find somebody to marry   so he  could produce  an heir to the throne.    Everything   that  ever   happened    was   orchestrated  and choreographed by others.            Charles   had been in love  with  Camilla  for years  and  years,   right  from the time  she  first  was divorced  from   her  husband.    Once  again,  they  were  "forbidden"  to  ever   get together  officially  because  she  was a  "divorced woman".        Charles  was so used to    doing what he  was told  he  "must do for England"  that   when it  was   demanded of him that  he   make his  advances  to  this young   noblewoman  Diana,  he  dutifully  did it.    He never  wanted to marry her  and he never loved her   and   while  it   wasn't  Diana's  fault  either  because  she  was also being pushed,  it  d**n  sure  wasn't Charles's.

            The  whole    thing    has been a  sordid  business,  a  shame  and a  disgrace,  and one   of the many  reasons  why I believe the  British Royal   Family,  and the whole  Monarchy thing  is  a  Dinasaur  that should have  been made  extinct  long  ago.          Monarchy  is    totally inconsistent  with  the times in which  we now live,  and the   ONLY    reason   that   those  in  authority   over the whole  thing    insist it  continues    is  because   a)  it is   an ancient  British Tradition   and b)  as  a   real-life  Royal Soap  Opera,  it  has  the whole world   as its  audience  and   they   believe it   brings in a  lot of tourist   revenues.    What  they  are  really  saying is  that  the Royal  Family   are    a  bunch of  fish in a  goldfish  bowl  and  their   job is  to  put on  a    big  act  and allow     millions of people  to  gawp  at them,  write  about them,  photograph  them,  and  come to England to  see where they live.

                                                                            

                                         A  pretty,   pampered,  nineteen  year old  airhead   from the   right side of the  tracks,   and  a   stiff, brainwashed  35 or something  year-old   guy  who had  been told what to do  all his life,   were forced  together    by   political  heavyweights.    She  had  her  head in the clouds  about becoming a  Fairy  Princess,   he   just   sighed  and did   what  he  was told  he  MUST  do  - get married  fast  and   start making some heirs.     The  two  were totally incompatible,    and   nowadays   everybody  wants to blame   Charles,   or  they   want to  blame Camilla,  who is the only person  who  ever  truly   loved,  cared  about  and fully understood  Charles    from the  day  they  first  ever met,  years  and years   before.

                                

                   I  think  Camilla  is the only  REAL  person in that whole  darn  dog and  pony show,   and    I  suspect that William and Harry  may  be  about  as  "normal"   as it's  ever possible  to be in that life situation.              Those   two boys  know Camilla   in a  way  that   you  can't possibly know her   and  neither  can any of the  rest of us because    the only thing  we have to go by  is   the  gossip  columns    of  "rag" newspapers  and  all of the  other  phony balony   that  is put out   in whatever  way the media,  and   individual   interested parties  think will pull  in  the most money.

                     Charles'  late  Great- uncle,     faced  the  same  dilemma  many  many  years  earlier  when he met and  feel  deeply in love  with   an American  divorcee   whose name   escapes me  at the moment.     They told him  that  he  could never  marry her  and make her  Queen of England  because   she   was a divorced  woman.        He  announced  in a  speech  to the  whole  of   the British People  that   he   had  decided  he  could  NOT  go through life  without   the woman  he  deeply loved  at his side,  and he therefore would   give  up  his  right  to the British Throne.           This   he   did,   married   the love of his life,   and the  two of  them   went  into  a  kind of  "pushed  exile"  going to make  a  home  in Paris,  where    they  lived     in love  and   devotion  for their   entire lives.

                       His   brother  George   took  over  the throne  to become   King George Vl  who,   with his  wife Elizabeth,  produced  two  daughters,    Elizabeth,    and    Margaret.       Upon the  death of  King George,  Elizabeth  the  elder  daughter,  about  21  at the time,  ascended the Throne  to become Queen Elizabeth ll  of  England -  the present  queen  and  mother of Prince  Charles.   She   would  be    the direct monarch   by   lineage,  but  her husband,  Prince  Philip, would be  at  her  side  as  her   Prince Consort.    Queen Elizabeth,   herself  conditioned  from  an  early  age   to  the  fact that  she  would some  day be  the  reigning Monarch,   went on to  lead  a life  of  total  subjugation to  that   job.       Her   younger sister, Margaret,  grew up having it made perfectly clear  to her  that  she  herself   had   very little  significance  in  this  "game of kings"    It would just  be her job  to hang  around in the background,  being  the   dutiful   younger sister  of the Queen.           Even   when  she   fell  finally madly in  love  with a  British Military Officer, Captain Peter Townsend,  she  was told  that  it  was her  duty   to  reject   any    thoughts of marrying him because  he  was a divorced man (even though it  was he  who had divorced his wife for   her  infidelity)                She  caved in,  and in  a  speech to the Nation,  much  as her   uncle  had once  done,  she  announced  that  she would   relinquish   her personal wishes in order  to  "do her   duty to her  country".           They  were never to  be  together  again  and a  few years later, Margaret  settled   for  marriage  to  a  scrawny  guy   who  was  a court  photographer. He  was given  a  title  Lord Snowden,  so that his   wife,  the  Princess  Margaret, wouldn't have  to be  called  Mrs.   anything.      They  produced  two  children, a  boy  and  a girl,   and  were later divorced.    Margaret   remained miserable,   angry   and   filled  with  bitterness.  She  drank  too much,  smoked like  a chimney, and   would  eventually  die  of   medical  circumstances directly  related to her overindulgences.     What  a pathetic  waste of a  life - for the  sake of  "royal  duty".

                    No,  it is  time to  stop  blaming  that unfortunate man,   Prince Charles,   and   the woman   HE  has always loved     who   finally  he  was able to  make his wife,  Camilla.    How  outrageous  that  people  have  poked  fun of   her  because   she   was  older than,   and  not   as  glamorous,  as Diana.       Diana  had  a  string of  lovers  while she  was  still married to Charles,   but   in the  mind of the public, hey,   she  was just "lonely  and in  need of love".    Well,   nobody  has  ever been  lonelier    than Charles    in  this unique  situation that he  had thrust  upon him  at birth.    All   the years   that Camilla   was free   to have  all   the  flings  she   may have  cared to,    she  was  never  seen  in the company of another man.   She  was  always   quietly  faithful to the one man she  truly loved, Charles.    And  to  anybody  who  wants to make  another snide comment  about    Camilla  not   being a  dazzling beauty,    look  around you.    I'll bet  YOU  have somebody in your own  family   with  a  less  than  heavenly  face, but who  married   and  had   a  normal life.

                       Give   Charles  and Camilla  a break.   And  put  this  whole   wacky  hyped-up  nonsense  about    Diana  into its proper perspective.     She   was just  a   little  gal    who  came  from  a  wealthy  family,    told  she   had to marry  a Prince  (and she  was starry-eyed  about it   so nobody had to push  very hard).       It  was  never going to work out    because it  was  not a marriage of mutual  love,  and  when   they  went their   separate  ways, the  ONLY   reason Diana  became the  "Darling of Society"  is  because  when the  fairy-tale marriage   went pop,  people  still  wanted  to  keep  the   fairy  story  alive  by  pretending   she  was  a Fairy Princess.    If  she  went on to  use her  celebrity  and her  position  to    do  some good in the world,    bully for her.   She had   a  ton of money  and   a  ton of    assistance keeping  her    right in the public  eye.   Frankly,  I think   the   life-long,   dedicated, hardworking,  saintly  woman  Mother Theresa  should have  got   the    greater  award.        I guess  she  just  wasn't   good looking enough.

  23. If they can accept her, then it's none of my concern.  Charles did not go back to Camilla until he felt the marriage was irreparable.

  24. I think it's a matter of tolerating them, Diana was the one everyone liked. The boys are being mature, but will never let their mom be disrespected or forgotten.

  25. Some things in some families are just never discussed.  I would ventrue to say that is what they do.

  26. Why did a young girl marry a man almost twice her age. A daddy complex, or did she want the rank and privilege he could give her  ?

  27. No one really knows how Harry and William truly feel about Camilla.  Buckingham Palace has top notch PR people working for them.  All we know is what we see and read in the press.  No one would have known how unhappy Diana was in her marriage if she hadn't had the courage to buck PR and speak up about it.  She and Charles attended public events together and were seen smiling and waving -- happy as clams as far as anyone could tell -- until Diana refused to go along with the charade anymore.  

    As for the people liking Charles after what he did, again -- the power of the press.  Media can make anyone appear to be a villian or a hero.

  28. At least Charles only had an affair with one woman. Diana had at least two - James Hewitt and Will Carling, there's also another (I think he's a Surgeon). Diana was not the sweet, innocent person people portray her to be, she was just as bad (if not worse) than Prince Charles. At least he never used the press to attack people he disliked.

  29. William and Harry have no real choice but to accept Camilla. The media would've had a field day writing about any sort of family "war" and it would give the monarchy a blacker eye than it already has.  I think they're doing the best they can to walk the high road.  This comes from their mother. No thanks to their philandering selfish father!

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