Christian Exodus movement and Free State Movement: Do you feel they are the wave of the future?

Question

neither movement has gotten far but do you think people will vote with their feet more like that in the future?

Answer 1

They aren't the first groups to have tried this. The most successful have been the Mormons in Utah--but only because no one in their right mind would want to live in Utah.

African Americans demanded six states as a homeland back in the '60's, but nothing came of it. Maybe it spoiled the fun that White Racists thought it was a terrific idea.

But, a lot of people, and not just Christians, feel that their right to persecute people is unfairly denied them. I would love to think that that kind of Balkanization was possible. Not because it's a good idea, it isn't, but because it would mean that a large enough number of Americans cared enough about politics to get off theri butts and do something that We the People might again become a force to reckon with.

The Free State Movement has a better chance of succeeding because Libertarians have a slightly better chance of being rational people than Fundamentalists do.  But they'd be likely to see a mass exodus of workers once working people were required to forgo Social Serivces and Public Education and try to survive on starvation wages.  Because the Libertarians never have an answer as to how they intend to prevent corporations from usurping quasi-governmental powers.

In a way, isolating Christian Extremists would be a great thing because they would become too marginalized to bother the rest of America. A "Puritan" South Carolina would quickly find out how large a proportion of the State's Professionals and Business Owners are Black, g*y or Female. Even mainstream corporations would shun a place that demanded the right to tell them who they could and couldn't hire and to set differential pay scales and benefits by race and gender.

Their health would also quickly deteriorate. You'd be amazed at how few doctors are Fundamentalists, and a homeschooled professional community would function about as well as Fundies deserve.

Answer 2

REPEAL OF THE 13TH, 14TH AND 19TH AMENDMENTS.!!! These people are certifiable.  Can we find them an island of their own?

Beliefs

According to their literature, Christian Exodus believes that the United States has strayed from its founding vision, and they refer to their program as "restoring" the nation to its Puritan roots. The group's mission statement reads:

"ChristianExodus.org is an association of Christians who no longer wish to live under the unjust usurpation of powers by the federal government, and therefore resolves to formally disassociate itself from this tyrannical authority, and return to the model of governance of a constitutional republic. We seek a republican government constrained by constitutionally delegated powers. If this cannot be achieved within the United States, then we believe a peaceful withdrawal from the union to be the last available remedy."[2]

In particular, they focus on the following areas of concern, which would generally be classified as ultraconservative:

To oppose the increasing acceptance of homosexuality, and especially of civil unions or outright g*y marriage. The group maintains that, "...sexual conduct outside the bonds of marriage is not a God-given right. Therefore, homosexual activity is a behavior that a state may regulate and legislate against."

To abolish public funding for education, and to protect Homeschooling. The group "...prefers the privatization of education whether in the form of private schools or home schooling because public administration is far less efficient and immorally taxes citizens not receiving the service paid for."

To repeal State and Federal laws that they believe violate the right to keep and bear arms.

To repeal court rulings that they feel abuse the power of eminent domain, and that they fear will lead to arbitrary seizure.

They fear laws will soon be passed defining the practice of Christianity as a hate crime.

They feel the rights of fathers are not upheld in child custody cases.

They advocate the repeal of the Thirteenth and Fourteenth Amendments, which abolished slavery, made former slaves citizens and gave them the right to vote. Christian Exodus says "We hold that it is the obligation of the various States to nullify this Amendment and all laws and court rulings arising from it."

They advocate repeal of the Sixteenth Amendment, which permits the taxation of all forms of income by the Federal Government.

They advocate repeal of the Seventeenth Amendment, which requires popular election of Senators.

They advocate repeal of the Nineteenth Amendment, which forbid voting restrictions based on gender.

They oppose the Twenty-first Amendment, which repealed Prohibition.

They advocate that the states should have power to prohibit the immigration and/or naturalization of such persons as each sees fit to exclude as was originally the case in America.

Christian Exodus has not ruled out seceding from the United States. South Carolina was picked because the group believes that it has a high chance of seceding again due to the fact that it was listed in the Treaty of Paris as a sovereign nation, and because it was the first state to secede from the United States at the onset of the American Civil War. In the former respect, however, South Carolina is not unique: all thirteen colonies were individually named as independent states in Article I of the treaty. (See also Republic of Hawaii, Republic of Texas, Republic of Vermont and Bear Flag Republic (California)). Furthermore, the ratifications of the U.S. Constitution by New York, Rhode Island and Virginia all retained the right of those states to leave the union of their own free will, and these ratifications were accepted in their entirety by the other states.

Answer 3

I dont know either one..sorry..cant answer this one with knowledge..but if they mean get out of urban and other areas populated by illegals or criminals..then yes..good idea