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Christians, are we defined by our freewill, or is our freewill defined by us?

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If two exactly the same clones of humans were made, and they had the exactly the same genetic make-up, experiences and feelings and were both placed in separate identical rooms with one apple in each room respectively.

If they were then given freewill and they could either:

A) Eat the apple

B) Not eat the apple

Would it be possible for their free will decisions to differ in any way?

If their decisions did differ, why or how would this be so?

And if their decisions are exactly the same, doesn't that suggest that all of our actions are defined by our genetic make-up and experiences, rather than freewill defining our actions?

Is freewill just an imaginary concept?

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  1. They were given the freedom of choice. There choice was to reach for the glory and to be like God.


  2. "Is freewill just an imaginary concept?" yes... or, at the very least, a concept born out of ignorance

    how many situations, besides religion, does the "freewill" question even come up?

  3. Freewill is a concept created and defined by humans! I am wondering if  Christians  are the only ones using the term.

  4. If they both chose option A, well that would make more sense because they are 100% identical.

    Unrealistic example though.

    Let's look at identical twins, they have pretty much the exact same genetic make-up and growing up together, probably the same experience. Yet it is very possible that each one could chose A and the other B.

    Yet as  long as we have a different finger print from anyone else, we are unique with our own mind and free will.

    We have a destiny but it is our free will whether we decide to live that destiny or not.  

  5. freewill is an imaginary biblical scapegoat.  

  6. Freewill IS an imaginary concept.  Genetix rules all.

  7. God gave us our free will, but it is always within His limits. For example, you can reject Him but then you do not go to heaven

    I believe we have a choice. We have many more choices here on earth, but what comes to the eternity, the choices narrow between h**l and heaven, and we still get to choose. The choice comes with instructions

  8. Ethan no one ever said that free will was free from influences.

    Consider the influences on Eve in the garden.

    Free will does not change the fact that every single man so far created has chose to sin.

    Free will does not save you. Free will can cause your destruction.

    We also have a free will to choose the atonement God provides us.

  9. Darwin is the answer you seek

  10. Free will can't exist. It's all causality.

    Hunger and curiosity (primates detect potential food with their eyes and then taste it) would weigh in favour of eating the apple.

    Indifference etc would weigh in favour of not eating the apple.

    Probably they'd eat the apple 90% of the time. Free will isn't some magic thing that was poof'd into our head. The problem is people perceive cause and effect to be them deciding their own fate. Older Eastern religions new about cause and effect being the drive behind our actions but Christianity is silent on the subject.

  11. well it depends...are they both hungry?

    You have one flaw in your question....sure, one could eat it and the other might not, but whats the condition of the apples? What is the reason for the apple? Can anything happen if they eat the apple?

    If you are set in a random room with an apple...would you eat it? I wouldnt if it would kill me....or if it saved someones life then yes i would...

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