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Christians, do you think that Revelations is happening now?

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What make you so certain that this time is different from every other time throughout history? I mean I don't think there has been a single point it history in which someone wasn't claiming it's the end time. What makes this so different, and please don't rattle off various "signs" as every person claiming that the end was near because there where "signs" and invented and stretched every concept they could. When I was in the military, my chaplain had a chart framed of how it was the end of times according to revelations from World War One. ONE! Plus, isn't the time line a little off? I mean, so Adam and Eve was like 7,000+ years ago and then Christ came around 2,000 years ago. So that's at least 5,000 years without Christ and only 2,000 with... Kinda bazaar that God would only start the movie towards the end, don't you think? Also, what makes you so sure that Revelations is all that credible? I mean, keep in mind your faith, but isn't it possible that a book that was written thousands of years ago and has since been translated, retranslated, and edited many times might have a mistake in it or two? Or possibly have some hack claimed to have of had dream and insisted that his writings be put in? I mean the whole thing is like 10 pages of nonspecifics designed to mess with your head and sounds like something an OCD sufferer would write.

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  1. We've been in the "last days" since Christ's resurection.  The purpose of the book of Revelations wasn't to show exactly what the "end" would be like, but rather it was to give hope to Christians who were being persecuted at the time it was written...it's promise is the ultimate victory of Christ.

    Most of the prophecies will be fulfilled twice...i.e.  666 (also 616 depending on the text) was Caesar Nero...to buy and sell in the Roman empire one had to have the coin of the realm..."babylon" is code for Rome...etc.

    And Eghads, avoid falling for the Watchtower Nonsense above my post.


  2. I have a feeling that we'll be toasting to the writers of the Bible after this century goes by with no world-ending disasters for making the believers foam at their mouths.

    The Bible writers really do know how to give us Atheists a good laugh.

  3. I have right here a "savings certificate" that I can send in to get a two-year subscription to "Midnight Call: The International Prophetic Voice for the Endtimes".

    So we've got at least two years.

    I'm tempted to call and ask what kind of break I can get for a 10-year subscription.

  4. No, people have been claiming that the end of the world is nigh forever, and that aside revelations is about as likely to come true as Harry Potter is, being that they're both tales of fiction.

  5. JESUS CHRIST is, was, and always shall be alive. All that died was His mortal being. Well they say God's days are like a thousand of ours so being this is the 3rd thousand years since His mortal death that would make it the third day now wouldn't it, and on the third day He is risen. Yes He was risen and gone before anyone woke up and checked on Him so I know He will be here soon.

    Lu:17:34: I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

    Lu:17:35: Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

    Lu:17:36: Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

    As it is written He must first be rejected of this generation and from what I can tell that is happening at warp speed, I feel since God's ways are not man's ways, His idea of generations are: one generation of humans before the flood and the second generation after the flood:

    Lu:17:25: But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation.

    Lu:17:20: And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

    Lu:17:21: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

    Lu:17:22: And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.

    Lu:17:23: And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.

    Lu:17:24: For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.

    Lu:17:25: But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation.

    Lu:17:26: And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

    Lu:17:27: They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

    Lu:17:28: Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

    Lu:17:29: But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

    Lu:17:30: Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

    Lu:17:31: In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.

    Lu:17:32: Remember Lot's wife.

    Lu:17:33: Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

    Lu:17:34: I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

    Lu:17:35: Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

    Lu:17:36: Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

    Lu:17:37: And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

    P.S. How does man count generations since there are people who are born and people who die every day. If they are going by family trees, how about the family that has children at the age of 16yrs.old or so they would be in their 20th or 30th generation by now (actually according to estimated dates 69696th generation based on this date:

    http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/flo... ) where a family that waited until they were at least 35yrs.old to have kids would be in their 10th or 15th generation.

    Take care and may God bless you spiritually.

  6. Slowly working towards it, no where near anything of interest for you.

  7. Here use your bible,make sure of all things...God’s Government Begins Its Rule

    FOR THOUSANDS of years persons with faith in God’s government have looked forward to the time when it would begin its rule. For example, the Bible says that faithful Abraham “was awaiting the city having real foundations, the builder and maker of which city is God.” (Hebrews 11:10) That “city” is God’s kingdom. But why is it here called a “city”? This is because in ancient times it was common for a king to rule over a city. So people often thought of a city as a kingdom.

    2 The kingdom of God was real to Christ’s early followers. This is shown by their keen interest in its rule. (Matthew 20:20-23) A question in their minds was: When would Christ and his disciples begin ruling? Once when Jesus appeared to his disciples after his resurrection, they asked: “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” (Acts 1:6) So, are you eager to learn when Christ begins to rule as King of God’s government, even as Christ’s disciples were?

    THE GOVERNMENT FOR WHICH CHRISTIANS PRAY

    3 Christ taught his followers to pray to God: “Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth.” (Matthew 6:9, 10) But someone may ask: ‘Has not Jehovah God always ruled as king? And if he has, why pray for his kingdom to come?’

    4 True, the Bible calls Jehovah the “King of eternity.” (1 Timothy 1:17) And it says: “Jehovah himself has firmly established his throne in the very heavens; and over everything his own kingship has held domination.” (Psalm 103:19) So Jehovah has always been the Supreme Ruler over all his creations. (Jeremiah 10:10) However, because of the rebellion against his rulership in the garden of Eden, God arranged for a special government. This is the government for which Jesus Christ later taught his followers to pray. Its purpose is to end the problems caused when Satan the Devil and others turned away from God’s rulership.

    5 This new Kingdom government receives its power and right to rule from the Great King, Jehovah God. It is his kingdom. Over and over again, the Bible calls it the “kingdom of God.” (Luke 9:2, 11, 60, 62; 1 Corinthians 6:9, 10; 15:50) However, since Jehovah has appointed his Son to be its Chief Ruler, it is also referred to as Christ’s kingdom. (2 Peter 1:11) As we learned in an earlier chapter, 144,000 persons from among humankind will rule with Christ in this kingdom. (Revelation 14:1-4; 20:6) So the Bible also refers to it as “their kingdom.”—Daniel 7:27.

    6 Some persons say that the Kingdom began its rule in the year that Jesus returned to heaven. They say that Christ began ruling when he poured out the holy spirit on his followers on the day of the Jewish festival of Pentecost in the year 33 C.E. (Acts 2:1-4) But the Kingdom government that Jehovah arranged to end all the problems created by Satan’s rebellion did not begin its rule then. There is nothing to show that the ‘male child,’ which is God’s government with Christ as ruler, was then born and began its rule. (Revelation 12:1-10) Well, did Jesus in any way have a kingdom in the year 33 C.E.?

    7 Yes, Jesus then began to rule over his congregation of followers who, in time, were to join him in the heavens. Thus the Bible speaks of them, while they are on earth, as being taken into “the kingdom of the Son of [God’s] love.” (Colossians 1:13) But this rule, or “kingdom,” over Christians with the hope of heavenly life is not the Kingdom government for which Jesus taught his followers to pray. It is a kingdom over only the 144,000 persons who will rule with him in heaven. Down through the centuries they have been its only subjects. Thus this rule, or ‘kingdom of the Son of God’s love,’ will end when the last one of these subjects with a heavenly hope dies and joins Christ in heaven. No longer will they be Christ’s subjects, but they will then be kings with him in God’s long-promised Kingdom government.

    BEGINNING OF RULE IN THE MIDST OF ENEMIES

    8 When Christ returned to heaven after his resurrection, he did not start ruling then as King of God’s government. Rather, there was to be a time of waiting, as the apostle Paul explains: “This man [Jesus Christ] offered one sacrifice for sins perpetually and sat down at the right hand of God, from then on awaiting until his enemies should be placed as a stool for his feet.” (Hebrews 10:12, 13) When the time came for Christ to begin to rule, Jehovah told him: “Go subduing [or, conquering] in the midst of your enemies.”—Psalm 110:1, 2, 5, 6.

    9 Does it sound strange that anyone would be an enemy of God’s government? Yet not everyone wants to live under a government that requires its subjects to do what is right. So after telling how Jehovah and his Son would take over world rulership, the Bible says, “the nations became wrathful.” (Revelation 11:15, 17, 18) The nations do not welcome God’s kingdom because Satan misleads them into opposing it.

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