Christians: WILL you people please make up your minds??

Question

you ALWAYS contrdict each other on this one subject, and i would like one answer, once and for all!!!

Is jesus the SON of god

or

is jesus god himself?!

I constantly see both arguments! Please will someone just tell me what is the truth, because i get confused when i want to post a question Jesus related!

Answer 1

it is not surprising that you do not understand what it is that you ask...however to entertain your subconscious...Jesus is God and the Holy Spirit...  three in one...it is like a man being a son, a brother, a friend, a husband and a father.  it is quite simple really...just calm down and think about it...and stop looking for all your answers to be solved here...look within you ... there is where the answer lies.  you just have to get all the junk heaped on top of it out of the way...once you do that...you will see.

Answer 2

Jesus, of course, is son of god. Who says he's god himself?

Answer 3

Yes Jesus is the Son of God, being the Lord our God as stated in many scriptures,  

Answer 4

Jesus is not God’s Son in the sense of how we think of a father and a son. God did not get married and have a son. Jesus is God’s Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form (John 1:1,14). Jesus is God's Son in that He was conceived by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35 declares, "The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.'" In Bible times, the phrase “son of man” was used to describe a human being. The son of a man is a man.

During His trial before the Jewish leaders, the High Priest demanded of Jesus, “I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God" (Matthew 26:63). Jesus responded, “Yes, it is as you say, ‘but I say to all of you: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven” (Matthew 26:64). The Jewish leaders responded by accusing Jesus of blasphemy (Matthew 26:65-66). Later, before Pontius Pilate, “The Jews insisted, ‘We have a law, and according to that law He must die, because He claimed to be the Son of God’” (John 19:7). Why would claiming to be the “Son of God” be considered blasphemy and be worthy of a death sentence? The Jewish leaders understood exactly what Jesus meant by the phrase “Son of God.” To be the “Son of God” is to be of the same nature as God. The “Son of God” is “of God.” The claim to be of the same nature as God, to in fact “be God,” was blasphemy to the Jewish leaders; therefore, they demanded Jesus’ death. Hebrews 1:3 expresses this very clearly, “The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of His being…”

Another example can be found in John 17:12 where Judas is described as the "son of perdition." John 6:71 tells us that Judas was the son of Simon. What does John 17:12 mean by describing Judas as the "son of perdition"? The word "perdition" means "destruction, ruin, waste." Judas was not the literal son of "ruin, destruction, and waste" - but those things were the identity of Judas' life. Judas was a manifestation of perdition. In this same aspect, Jesus is the Son of God. The Son of God is God. Jesus is God made manifest (John 1:1,14).

Answer 5

it deals with the trinity.  Jesus is God. He is the Son of God.  This is not a contradiction it is merely you confusion.

Answer 6

Jesus is the Son of God because in the bible he says::for God Loves the world so much that he gave his one and only Son so that every one who believes in him ( the Son ) will not die but leave internal lives.

Jesus also says in John chapter 10 v 36-37 that he is God's Son in this scripture you can go and read it in your bible.

Answer 7

You missed the most obvious answer to your implied question. "It all of it just a superstitious nonsense?" Why yes it is.....

Answer 8

Colosians 1:19 and 2:9 states that ," All the Fullness of God dwelled in the Flesh." This means in no measurable form can be taken away from all the fullness and therefore is fully God.  John 10:30 says I and my Father are One.  We(mankind) know things a precious by our children and if we were to have only one especially back in biblical days where men were seen as farmers, warriors and it more valuable to be a man than a women in those days. To have only one son and that is all you were going to have that A person would give that only child up to take the punishment for all the sins of the world upon himself. This precious gift is what God did for us and no way could we do it but the concept of an only son helps us fathom a little bit to know how much God loves us that He himself would pour Himself in all the fullness of himself into flesh and come and take our sins that we may be free from the law and live under grace and share in His presence throughout eternity.

Answer 9

Religion is one big contradiction and a predominant trait of Christianity is undecidedness and absentness of an independent thought process...

Answer 10

Well I have always been taught that Jesus is the son of god.

Answer 11

Are you your father or are you a unique individual?

You're obviously a unique individual, but you have characteristics of both your parents (your father included). Jesus is the same way. He was born of a woman, but since he has his father's characteristics too, he's also god.

Answer 12

Jesus is both, so to say both is NOT a contradiction.  Being the son of God is in essence being God because God is God - something that comes from Him (related to him, the seed of Him) has to be fully God too, by default.  You can't be "part of God" there are no parts of God.  There is God - the Son and the Spirit and the Father are just essences of the same being.

Answer 13

LMAO. You aren't going to get one answer, because Christians are divided on the topic.

Catholics, or those Christians who believe in a trinity, will tell you Jesus IS God himself.

Other Christians see them as three separate beings: God the Father, Jesus (his son) and then, the Holy Spirit.  

Answer 14

You ask for the truth - which is the Word of God - on the same evening you declare the Bible false.

My mind has been made up since 1989.

You talk compulsively about God.

I know my reason for doing that.

I'm quite certain I know yours as well.

Answer 15

He is both...and I'm sure that's not what you were looking for. God is a multidimensional personality, just like the rest of us, and these aspects of Him are referred to as members of a family. The Father is the creative intellect of God, the one called YHWH, or the LORD. The Son is the bodily component of God, the one that came down to interact with humans. For the Mother, you would have to study Kabbalah. To oversimplify, the Mother was God before creation, and the Father is God after creation. Think of creation as their 'marriage', and the Son was the natural consummation of that marriage. This is not a real way to look at God, but merely a metaphor to help people understand Him better. Did it help?

Answer 16

The God Yahweh is a scientist who cloned Himself into human form through the Virgin Mary. His clone of Himself was named Jesus. That is how and why Jesus was born with the exact same powers to heal the sick and also inflict sickness and disease if He wanted to as Yahweh of The Old Testament did. So if Yahweh cloned Himself into human form what would that make His male Son? The Son of God who's Mother was human.

Answer 17

Jesus is the son of God.

The Saviour. The Messiah. The Sovereign Lord.

He is the way to the Father.

Answer 18

You will never get a correct answer from most Christians. Although they read their Bibles over and over, they still do not know who Jesus really is. I know the correct answer but you will never believe it.

Answer 19

Simple: Jesus is the son of man, but he is also God.

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Answer 20

I have read & studied the entire Bible over many years. Jesus is the Son of God not God the Father - God didn't die on the cross 4 us His Son did. God spoke 2 various people in the OT. There4 Jesus was always there with God even when the universe was created.

Unfortunately, the trinity doctrine is in fact a complete misunderstanding of the true relationship btwn God, His Holy Spirit & Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Regrettably, those who hang on 2 such teaching cant rightly understand many of the other Biblical relationships & teaching (it came 2 be thru Catholics who have propagated many lies). While others have rightly determined the trinity doctrine contains errors they dont rightly understand the true relationship either. B/c they dont realize that Jesus is the actual Son of God they dont go 2 Him in accordance with His instructions - they dont come 2 trust that since He came from God that He can open their eyes 2 rightly understand whats been preserved in the Bible. Who would know more about a house, the Builder or those who move in later?

The manner in which the Trinity doctrine (not in the Bible) is presented it brings fear 2 many that u r not allowed 2 question it. Others (like the JWs, the Mormons, Islam, moonies, etc.) who saw partly whats wrong with the trinity made the major mistake of deciding that that meant that Jesus isnt really the only true Son of God.  2 begin 2 come 2 right understanding we need 2 start with John 1:1. Without a language God couldnt reason nor understand His thoughts nor could He create anything complex like a universe & life nor could He converse with others. So Jn 1:1 is referring 2 Jesus as the language of God. Man is created in God's image. That is man is limited by the same necessity 4 language as God. No matter how primative we need a language 2 function & live with others. Even animals need a language 2 communicate with others.

The language part of u never tells u what 2 do nor can it act on its own.  There4, the statements made by Jesus regarding His relationship with God r true (Jn 5:19,30; 8:28). The language part of u cant act on its own nor can it usurp your authority - a student is never greater than his teacher. On 1 level your language is a layer within u but always a part of u. U can pass 2 your son understanding of what u r about thru your language part of u. If your son learns everything u teach him he, in effect, becomes like u & is u for all intents & purposes. 4 learning 2 & obeying God, He can reward His Son with a position of authority.

Lets say the father owns a business & employs his son & teaches him all about the business & how he runs the business. He decides He wants 2 rest or go away. He puts his son in charge trusting he will do exactly what he would do if he were running it himself. If the son obeys him & runs the business the same way his father would, he is in effect his father & can claim to be his father (having rightly imitated his father he is like his father - like father, like son). So while he is exactly like his father he is never equal 2 his father even though he has been given all authority of the father. The same is true regarding the God of Israel with respect 2 His Son, Jesus, who fully reflected all that is of God.  Jesus wasnt God incarnate but He perfectly did God's will instead of his own will. Jesus' obedience 2 God's will:

Ro 5:19  For as by 1 man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by 1 Man's obedience (Jesus obeyed God's will) many will be made righteous (Joh 12:49; Lu 6:40; Joh 14:28-29; Col 1:15 - He is the image of God b/c He obeyed God's will; Heb 5:7-8; Lu 2:52 (He had favor of many men b/c He wasnt acting like unsaved men do around each other).

There4, Jesus was & is obedient 2 God's will. B/c whats truly good is only what comes from "perfect" God (the 1 & only Truth) its only b/c Jesus did what is good (the 1 & only truth) according 2 God according 2 God's will (doing & teaching the truth) that Jesus can call Himself [like] God - b/c He became like His Teacher, knowing what is of God & there4 knowing & understanding God by learning the full knowledge of God & living accordingly, which we r 2 learn & imitate.

So we have a soul like God has His soul (what makes Him an individual), His language which He passed on 2 Jesus (His Son), & His Spirit which He commands thru His soul & language (attached 2 & part of God's consciousness). In other words, God (His soul) is the ultimate authority over both His Holy Spirit & His language. God acts thru His language 2 command & move His Spirit 2 act on His behalf (Joh 16:13).  There4, God thru Jesus commands His Spirit 2 act.  & b/c Jesus thru God's Holy Spirit fully obeyed God's will He is given authority over Heaven & earth & there4, has authority over all those who obey & imitate Him. B/c Jesus obeyed God even unto death we must go thru Jesus (praying 2 Jesus is how we get 2 God - u can pray 2 both - so u wont be disqualified just b/c the trinity doctrine is false) 2 be forgiven 4 our sins & 2 learn how 2 obey God. Since Jesus fully obeyed God's commandments He has been given all authority so that by imitating Jesus we can be saved if we sincerely turn 2 Him & ask Him 2 come in2 our hearts & 2 give us God's Holy Spirit.

However, why should God want u 2 live with Him forever if u dont want 2 know Him or follow His commandments (reason 4 free will - Jn 1:12-13)? But whoever searches 4 Jesus with all their heart & soul (u will always need your Bible - the ESV is accurate & about the easiest 2 read - see below) will find our true God & His Kingdom (U shall know the truth & it shall set u free). The truth of God remains forever, while the things of man, including his religions & gods made in his image dies with him.  In other words neither being a good person as judged by men or religion or its dogma/documents cant save u. But theres everlasting hope in Jesus Christ, the true Son of God.

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Answer 21

I'm still waiting for God to become a simple being that isn't beyond mankind's understanding.  I'm deadlocked on the idea, but leaning towards "son of God".  I too see both arguments, but don't understand why Jesus would constantly refer to himself as two seperate beings, but be one.

Answer 22

this is a little irelivent but

muslims believe that jesus isnt the son of god

or god how can god, the creater of the world, create himself years after the world was created.

Answer 23

Jesus is both the Son of God, and God Himself.

Answer 24

don't you get it? there is no truth to any of it

Answer 25

i believe i pancakes effect your health

Answer 26

There is only one god.  The new testament is heresy.

"Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him." Dt.4:35

"The LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else." Dt.4:39

"Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord." Dt.6:4

"See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me." Dt.32:39

"I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me." Is.43:10

"Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any." Is.44:8

"I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me." Is.45:5-6

"I am God, and there is none else: I am God, and there is none like me." Is.46:9

"The Lord our God is one Lord." Mk.12:29

"There is one God; and there is none other but he." Mk.12:32

"That they might know thee the only true God." Jn.17:3

"But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him." 1 Cor.8:6

Answer 27

If you are serious about know....I can give you the notes to my study.

Jesus IS the Son of God - and God the son - part of the Holy Trinity.

It's a really hard concept to understand but it is the way the bible teaches.

I am my mother's daughter - with a particular role as such

I am my husbands wife - with a very different role

I am also my children's mother - completely different role from both of the above but still me!  

NOTES of biblical proof of Trinity

Titus 2:13-14

13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

The gospel of grace affects one’s present behavior, on the one hand, by focusing on God’s unmerited favor in the past.  But the Gospel also promotes godly living by focusing on the future. Christians look forward to the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ (2 Tim. 4:8). It is crucial, moreover, to see that this One whom Christians look forward to meeting is the same One who gave Himself for us to redeem (lytrōsētai, “set free by payment of a price”; Luke 24:21; 1 Peter 1:18) us from all wickedness and to purify for Himself a people that are His very own, eager to do what is good. A holy people was His purpose in paying such a fearful price. Therefore, knowing what all He has done and why He has done it, a Christian who truly loves Christ and looks forward to His return will pay any price to bring his life into conformity with his beloved Lord’s will, lest he disappoint Him at His return. This was the Apostle John’s thought when he wrote about the hope of Christ’s appearing: “Everyone who has this hope in him purifies himself, just as He is pure” (1 John 3:3). A full understanding of these things leads inexorably to godly living. Conversely, ungodly living in a Christian is a clear sign that either he does not fully understand these things or he does not actually believe them.



John 1:1-3

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

John begins with a theological prologue. It is almost as if John had said, “I want you to consider Jesus in His teaching and deeds. But you will not understand the good news of Jesus in its fullest sense unless you view Him from this point of view. Jesus is God manifest in the flesh, and His words and deeds are those of the God-Man.



John 1:14

14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

It says in John 1:1-3 that the WORD was God!  Then in John 1:14 is says the WORD *God* was made flesh and dwelt among us!  Jesus was the one who was made flesh and dwelt among - God the Father and the Son are one in the same according to these verses alone!



1 John 5:7

7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.  This is the hardest evidence I can find that the trinity exists!  The “Word” here is God as it says above in John 1:1

Revelation 19:13

13 And he was clothed with vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called the Word of God.

Jesus is the one whose blood was shed – so this has to be Jesus.



I believe that concept of a Holy Trinity is hard to explain but I know it does exist because there are verses all throughout the bible that speak of it!

But this is the best way that I can explain it to you I hope it helps