Cole Hamels or Dan Haren?

Question

Both are Amazing Pitchers for good teams. Best Answer I will choose based on convincing arguement not just about their stats but all aspects including run-support, age, etc.

Dan Haren: ARI

G:21, GS:21, W:10, L:5, CG:0, SO:0, IP:140.2, H:111, R:45 ER:40, HR:10, BB:24, K:128, ERA:2.56,WHIP:0.96,BA:.213

Cole Hamels: PHI

G:22, GS:22, W:9, L:6, CG:2, SO:2, IP:154.1, H:122, R:63, ER:56, HR:21, BB:39, K:135, ERA:3.27, WHIP:1.04, BA:.215

Answer 1

Hamels.

Answer 2

hamels

Answer 3

I'll take Cole Hamels.

An extremely young pitcher with amazing stuff. It's almost impossible to get a flyball off of his changeup and his curveball has incredible movement.

Haren relies mostly on control rather then his stuff. Hamels is younger and will develop amazing control over time and right now, he possesses amazing control on his fastball. A controlled fastball is the best pitch you can have and Hamels has it along with his amazing offspeed pitches.

Answer 4

Haren. Hamels is in a slump this year compared to the past, and he (Haren) is continuing his dominance, despite being in a different league.

Answer 5

Hamels

Yeah, Haren has better stats at the moment, but Hamels also has 2 complete game shutouts, something Heren doesn't have. Also, stats are descieving because Hamels had a few bad games early, that would lower his ERA. Hamels has also gone 7IP + in 80% of his starts. He's a bullpen saver.

Finally, Hamels is a southpaw. There are too many right handers out there, I'd want my rotation to have a solid lefty before a solid righty/

Answer 6

Even though that Cole Hamels is in a slump, he still gets my vote.

GO PHILLIES!!!

Answer 7

I would pick Dan haren, I have seen his stuff, its great

Answer 8

Haren.

Answer 9

these pitchers are very similar in value if you ask me, but i'm going with cole hamels.

the biggest reason being that hamels has shown no signs of slowing down. he's 24, and in his third season, and has gotten better in every category every year.

here are the numbers:

2006/2007/2008

games started- 23/28/22

innings pitched per start- 5.75/6.54/7.02

wins- 9/15/9

era- 4.08/3.39/3.37

whip- 1.25/1.12/1.04

from these stats it's easy to see that his numbers are getting better, and he's still continuing to develop. he's going deeper into games, and putting up better numbers as he does it.

danny haren with the same breakdown (he was only in 14 games in 2003 and 2004):

2005/2006/2007/2008

games started- 34/34/34/21

innings pitched per start- 6.38/6.56/6.56/6.70

wins- 14/14/15/10

era- 3.73/4.10/3.07/2.56

whip- 1.22/1.21/1.21/0.96

with haren, he's 27. and his numbers suggest that he's peaked already. he was very steady for 3 straight years in which his numbers didn't change from 2004-2007 (wins- 14/14/15, starts 34/34/34, ip/start-6.38/6.56/6.56, whip- 1.22/1.21/1.21 are scarily similar) and it seems like this is a year where he's putting up a little better numbers. i expect next year he'll go back to his old numbers, which are still very very good. hamels on the other hand, i expect to continue to get better. for that reason, i'm taking hamels.