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Concerning 'disability rights':?

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Now have U people ever considered the notion that society doesn't owe you anything,just because U happened to be born a certain way. Especially where people assume they had nothing to due with the disability to begin with. Not unlike like the argument of being against affirmative action on the basis being 'I don't have to be discriminated against on the account of what my great-granddad to your ancestors' kind of arguments. Ever thought maybe generally society may be right on this issue?

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  1. "Outsiders" (Non-PWDs) have the Biblical obligation to treat PWDs with dignity and respect,

    PWDs have the Biblical right to be treated with dignity and respect by "Outsiders" (Non-PWDs)

    The American With Disabilities Act (ADA) gives PWDs equal rights in order to put PWDs on the same level with "Outsiders" (Non-PWDs) in Mainstream Society.


  2. Your whole concept of disability rights is off.  Disability rights is about having access to the same rights as others - not special rights - equal rights.

    Examples -

    Voting. If there are voting machines usable by people with disabilities than people with disabilities have equal access to voting. We don't need special help to vote - we can vote independently.  Blind people, people who cannot use their hands, and people who cannot read can vote privately without having someone else read and mark the ballot for them.  

    My son who is unable to read votes by going up to a machine - inserting a ballot and putting on headphones. The first question on the ballot is read to him, and then the choices. He can touch the screen when the person he wants to vote for name is said.  Then the next question is asked until the whole ballot is read.  When he is finished the choices he made are read aloud to him and if he agrees his ballot is printed out. If he wants to be sure it was printed correctly he can feed it back into the machine and it will be read to him again. This is all done in private.   Previously I would have to read the ballot to him and mark it. He had to trust me that I marked the ballot the way he wanted it marked. Some people have no one to trust.

    Voting is considered an inherent and private right in a democracy, but it is only in the last election that everyone had the right to vote independently.


  3. Have you ever heard of the words: What you have done unto the least of these, ye have done it unto me?

  4. I don't think society owes me anything. However I am grateful I live in a nation that believes in helping each other out and raising the standard of living for all. Everyone deserves to live a for filling content life. We can't just cast people aside like garbage and expect them to fend for themselves when they need help. For my self I'm lucky that all I need is a prosthetic leg, a left foot accelerator for my car, and a disabled parking permit then I'm pretty much on par with the next person. With those things to help me I can work, go to school and enjoy pretty much the same quality of life as the next person. Some people with disabilities need less help them I do others need more. Some people need assistance in day to day life but when they are given that assistance their quality of life is so much better.

      

  5. you are not disabled so not bin there they get treated crappy .. people mone about the disabled parking  or the chairs or the motor scooter  look at the funny looking boy or ain't he sweet ... fpissis me right off ...

    try find a person to help in UK ha its a joke  and when going out in a crowed why do people think Cos you are in a wheel chair that you loose the ability to talk ....   just think  if it was your child mum dad or in fact anyone in your family them you will be singing a different song ... you need to live on the other side  just to find out wot happens as for hospitals  if you aint got someone with you   yhou get ignored

  6. Nope.... Sorry I deal with disabled people on a daily basis and they are treated unfairly and they Society does owe them...FYI your question is not revelent and is absurd..

  7. Wow you sound angry? Are we maybe jealous of some special consideration someone with disabilities got to level the playing field ? As a person who has lived both sides of the coin I can tell you that the discrimination faced by us PWD  is very real very rampant and mostly accepted by society.  Disability rights is just to ensure we have the same rights to access all things available to us as basic human beings.  Granted sometimes these seem like "special" treatment it is really just to level the playing field so we all have equal opportunity to access what is there.  

         As for you comments likening this to Affirmative Action I have to say the reason that these things are turned into law is because common sense isn't so common and many people don't have the sense to treat people with dignity and respect off the bat.So we need programs like this to make sure discrimination and bigotry do not rule the world as it has in the past.

  8. I am trying to figure you out and why your saying this...

    I don't think society owes us a living,but with anybody being disabled or able its nice to know there is help out there...and there maybe a time when you need help,,,,

    I deeply think we all should help each other more..Not just about money but giving of yourself to others...We have become a nation of only caring for ourselves and materialistic..  

  9. You don't know what disability rights are about.

    Society may not owe us anything-but we d**n well have a right to be treated like everyone else.

    That means that you cannot turn someone down for a job they can do because they have disability. It means you can't set up a voting system that people with disabilities can't use to cast their votes. It means we have the right to equal access to education.

    You are making the same kind of excuse for bigotry--even using the same words--the n***s did when they sent people with disabilities to be murdered in gas chambers.  That is the moral level you have chosen for yourself.

  10. I don't ask anything more out of society but to treat me like everyone else. I think that's all anyone with a disability wants out of life, to be treated just like anyone else.

    However, people who don't have a disability -don't- treat pwd's the same. They either avoid them or pity them, and they don't understand what pwd's need to live their life normally, so sometimes people have to be told: this is what I need; if you want to help, then thank you. If not, then please don't stare, mock, or pity me.

    One example of a "special priveledge" that really isn't a special priveledge that I have is the White Cane Law. When I cross the street, I have right-of-way no matter what, because I cannot tell when the light is in my favour. If they put crosswalk lights in that had the chirping sound when the light is in my favour, I wouldn't have  to guess, but I don't demand that they put them in...I just demand that if I'm in the crosswalk, you don't run me over. Anyone would ask that, whether they are visually impaired or not...people don't want to be run over. Only difference for me is, if you hit me, you're in the wrong, no argument...I can't see you, so you're in the wrong.

    Society owes me nothing except what it owes everyone: a safe, healthy environment where I have a chance to be all I can be just like everyone else.

    Anyone who says society owes them something better have a long story about how they've been wronged all my life. My disability is not anyone's fault; I am who I am, and I can't help it, but neither can anyone else (except my doctor, who does his best!).

  11. I agree with chiliswoman, and I disagree with the point I think you are trying to make, cause this sounds very confusing.

    I also work with Disabled individuals, and they are often not treated equal to any other American Citizen.  Also many of the people I work with were in the past wrongly placed in institutions, where they were turtured and taken advantage off, even sexually abused by regular citizens.

    So yes, these people are owed by the society and the community for what they went trough.

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