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Considering the Western world alone... do you feel it's still a man's world?

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For example back in the 50's and before it was definantly a man's world, no question about it. Even James Brown said so, and for that time period he was definantly correct. Do you feel the Western world is still a man's world, or have we advanced far enough to where it's a world of equality for both men and women?

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  1. Well I do think that for most people, the generic human is a man.  That unfortunately does kind of make it a man's world - because it means women are seen as an alternative to the natural state of being a man.

    We are supposed to cheer when a woman is successful, but it is supposed to be normal for a man.

    We are supposed to find evidence of equality when a woman gets promoted, because it would be more "normal" for that promotion to have gone to a man.  I think Jess W helps me make this point - one woman's unsuccessful bid at the presidency is supposed to prove something.  If women were actually equal to men, it would not be considered the shining beacon of hope that everyone tries to make of it.

    The Supreme Court is mostly men.  The President and Vice President have always been men.  CEOs are usually men.

    Yeah, I guess I'd say it is still a man's world.

    But we are making progress!


  2. yes I think it's still very much a man world...maybe my view of this is slanted b/c I've always worked in male dominated roles.  Always having to prove myself to everyone, not just myself but my gender as well.  they dont say "you cnat do this" they say women/females/girls cant do this" and suddenly if I fail....I fail half the population.

    Anyway...I just wanted to say something.

    HILLARY CLINTON is NOT the first woman to run for president!

    You want prove it's a man's world...History is (incorrectly) written for men!

  3. No, I don't. The deciders may be overwhelmingly male, but the decisions are overwhelmingly balanced.

  4. I don't think its still a mans world. Seeing hilary clinton this year really opened that up for me.

  5. No its a woman's world now. Everything is feminized from football games with prince and Janet Jackson singing at the Superbowl trying to get woman to watch, to woman now have the upper hand in marriage divorce custody and so on and so on. Plus they still get all the old school stuff like the guy's paying for everything i don't understand why men still pay when woman can get a job just as easy.

    This world is now made to cater to woman i think they have tricked men into thinking they are incapable so we have to cater to them and take care of them, who is the stupid ones? men!! why we feels sorry for a woman i don't know, woman will never be happy and will feel no remorse for s******g over a man but if a man screws over a woman he is considered the devil.

  6. Yes it is still a man's world.  We're working on equality, but it is slow.  Hillary Clinton being a viable candidate for President shows how slow change is.  Other countries have female leaders, but the US can't seem to wrap its mind around that thought.  We're better off than we were as far as equality, but it is still a work in progress.

  7. Definitely not. For evidence see here (especially Section 4) http://www.freewebs.com/feminism-evaluat...

  8. We have come a long way from the stepford wives of the 1950s. But look at the US congress, 51% of the US population is female but only 10% of our lawmakers are. Women are severaly underrepresented in their government and underrepresented groups are always at a disadvantage.

    Edit: No one would be applauding Hillary Clinton's unsuccesful presidential bid as proof of equality if equality had truly been achieved. She would just be another unsuccesful presidential hopeful.

  9. I have watched things improving for over fifty years now and I can see how young women who did not actually experience the "bad old days" may not see any bias;however, I have been watching the bias recede and am here to tell you that it is still there, only less obvious. Things are much better: much better. But there is still work to be done. I thought that women would turn out in support of Hilary Clinton as the FIRST woman president and was appalled by how most of them divided for the two male candidates. Is there some fault that Hilary has of which either McCain or Obama is so clean? No, they aren't so squeaky clean. But a woman gets judged by a different, much harsher standard. She is a very intelligent person and was a very viable candidate but was seen through a lens distorted by cultural programming and a bias in favour of the men. The fact that most women do not perceive what I am saying here is the proof to me that this bias is so firmly in place. Women do not take women seriusly enough...nor do they "see" the faults of men objectively. They tend to be relatively uncritical of men. Feminists (some do take things to an extreme, though it is mostly in their impatience that their message gets lost) try very hard to get the majority of women to see this...Ironically, because of the efforts of feminists over the past fifty years or so (do not forget the Suffragets), the mainstream of women have it so much better that they do not believe that the efforts of the feminists have been important or of value. That is the tragic irony: feminists have successfully fought so many injustices and inequalities of pay and rights, that most young women don't realise what they have had handed them on a silver platter. I wish that the feminists would be more patient and find a new tack in explaining this to them...and I wish that young women of today would really listen.

  10. The western world is no longer a man's world. I have lived all over this country (USA) and I have not seen gender inequality. Sure some men still feel superior and badmouth women, but I hear women do the same thing. In some fields, a women's ceiling is lower, but not many any more. When you consider lifetime earning and ceilings between men and women, you do have to think about time taken off for children. Please don't shoot me. Honestly, it is the women that have the babies and usually stay home with them for a time. I agree that men could just as easily stay home for the few months after birth, but they don't have b*****s and milk-just an honest natural difference that in no way makes women inferior. You just have to take into consideration how the time off associated with multiple births could affect lifetime earning and ceilings, therefore contributing to discrepancies while interpreting the data. No woman in America today can honestly tell you that she doesn't have the opportunity to do any job a man can do.

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