Could any sane decent thinking person ever forgive a 'god' who..?

Question

made the earth move beneath the sea to kill 300 thousand blameless and innocent people?

for the spanish inquisition, whereby we mammals tortured and burnt each other for the sake of dogma?

for allowing so much blood to be spilt in his name,?

Answer 1

sanity and religion dont usually cross paths

Answer 2

Education, Education, when your country is run by people who have religious teachings to keep you in line that's what happens. People kill, hurt and bully others. As for the earthly movements their natural and Mother Earth never stops the wheels of time.

Answer 3

It wasn't God who did those things, it was nature and humankind. Stop always looking for a scapegoat, you're responsible for your own actions, as we all are. YOU do not forgive God, he forgives you.

Answer 4

Well the entire point of the flood was that those "300 thousand" people were not "blameless" or "innocent." If one believes the supposition that the flood happened at all, why would one then disbelieve the supposition that the individuals killed were horrible and deserving? At least one aught to remain internally consistent.

As for the Spanish Inquisition, one will note that curiously humans, not God, were responsible. If you could not "forgive" God for allowing the Spanish Inquisition, then how could you forgive humans for participating?

As for "so much blood to be split in his name," the only alternative would be to get rid of human free will. Which is the greater evil?

But of course, all that is really just an ad hominem attack. Even if God is as evil as you portray him to be, that wouldn't speak a whit about if such a God exists (which, given your comment about not believing or accepting religious texts, appears to be the real thrust of your question).

Answer 5

I thought that it was an act of nature, wars are the acts of governments & religion. 2 Tim 3:1-5 states what the world would be like in the last days.

But I do get your question, it's the same as a small child is abducted, assaulted, and murdered and then the comment is made "God needed her in heaven", you know maybe religion has got it wrong, maybe God's not doing these things. Wasn't it Satan that said to Eve "is it true that if you eat of this tree, etc etc" Then he called God a lair and told Eve that she wouldn't die, she would know right from wrong and be able to decide on her own? Well it looks like Satan is the one who is causing all these bad things to man kind and not God. Isn't it clever that Satan has even gotten man kind to think that God's doing all this to us, the wars, the murders, the wickedness, false religion, massive loss of life, and then man assumes it's God. The Bible tells me the true God Name(Psalms 83:18) means "Love", that don't fit with whats going on right now, but it sure fits Satan and his horde! Not knowing what the Bible really teaches has caused all this confusion. What the Bible really teaches is the name of a book published by the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society, it's free, one should look into it, what would it hurt?

There will be a time when our Creator will use the natural elements to accomplish his will, but he warns us first, it will be at Armageddon when all wickedness, false religion, & worldly government to an end.

Answer 6

You need to read the Bible...!!! That is the Bible God's pleasure.. human hurt and suffering!

Job 9:23 (NIV) When a scourge brings sudden death, God* (*NOT SATAN, but God!) mocks the despair of the INNOCENT.

Job 9:17 (NIV) He* (*God… NOT SATAN, but God!) would crush me with a storm and multiply my wounds FOR NO REASON.

Lamentations 3:37-38 (KJV) Who is he that saith, and it cometh to pass, when the Lord commandeth it not? OUT OF THE MOUTH OF THE MOST HIGH PROCEEDETH NOT EVIL AND GOOD*? (*Preachers lie, they say that “God is GOOD”, but not firstly EVIL…(read it again! FIRST: EVIL… and then “good” as a teaser!)

Exodus 4:11 (NIV) The Lord said to him, “Who gave man his mouth? Who makes him deaf or mute? Who gives him sight or makes him blind? Is it not I, the Lord? (Isn’t the Bible God so nice to tell us so we don’t have to blame the Devil all the time?)

Amos 3:6 (KJV) Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be EVIL in a city, and the lord hath not done it?

Proverbs 16:4 (NIV)  The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, EVEN THE WICKED* (*The Devil or is it any compassionate human being who doesn’t believe in God?) FOR THE DAY OF EVIL. (No Heathen religion in the Western World is as wicked as the Bible religion! I don’t even want to talk about Islam! Christians made up in their minds what Christianity ought to be in spite of what’s written in the Bible!)

Ruth 1:20-21 (NIV) “Don't call me Naomi,” she told them. “Call me Mara, because the Almighty has made my life very bitter. I went away full, but the Lord has brought me back empty. Why call me Naomi? The Lord has afflicted me; the Almighty* (*NOT SATAN, but God!) has brought misfortune upon me.”

Proverbs 1:26-28 (NIV) I* (*God NOT SATAN, but God!)  in turn will laugh at your disaster; I WILL MOCK WHEN CALAMITY OVERTAKES YOU* (*God is taking advantage of any calamity like a forthcoming California Earthquake to convey a “message” that some Christians don’t get!) - when calamity overtakes you like a storm, when disaster sweeps over you like a whirlwind, when distress and trouble overwhelm you. Then they will call to me but I will not answer; they will look for me but will not find me.

Jeremiah 11: 14 "Do not pray for this people nor offer any plea or petition for them, BECAUSE I* (*God) WILL NOT LISTEN WHEN THEY CALL TO ME IN THE TIME OF THEIR DISTRESS*. (Nothing scares primitive religious people more than the idea that their God doesn’t listen to them!  It still works today! The Christian idea that this whimsical God always listens to them is wishful hoping that the chances are just right that God will answer on the spot, otherwise he will POSITIVELY answer, but later on or never! It is just like praying to a stick or a rock or any other more benevolent God and getting the SAME IDENTICAL RESULT!)  

Romans 9:11-15   Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad–in order that God's purpose in election might stand: not by works but by him who calls–she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”  What then shall we say? IS GOD UNJUST? NOT AT ALL!* (*Saint Paul says so… because he is telling you!)  For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”* (*the Christian clergy preaches you all the opposite that God is no respecter of persons when he is on record to be that way!)

Malachi 1:4  (NIV) Edom* (*Esau) may say, "Though we have been crushed, we will rebuild the ruins."  But this is what the LORD Almighty says: "They may build, but I will demolish. They will be called the Wicked Land, A PEOPLE ALWAYS UNDER THE WRATH OF THE LORD* (*How would you like to be one of them? No FREE WILL FOR YOU! NO Salvation, either! God doesn’t like you for ever just for the heck of it!)

Isaiah 45:7 (KJV) I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and CREATE EVIL: I the LORD* (*NOT SATAN) do all these things.

Job 42:11 (KJV) Then came there unto him all his brethren, and all his sisters, and all they that had been of his acquaintance before, and did eat bread with him in his house: and they bemoaned him, and comforted him over ALL THE EVIL that the LORD* (*NOT SATAN!) had brought upon him:* (*God had a plan to have ALL of Job’s children slaughtered! He gave Job some new ones later on after all that… Isn’t God so wonderful?! Life is so cheap as far as the Bible God goes!)

When was the last time that a Christian blamed God for any of his/her misfortune? I bet you they credit Satan for their misfortunes!  They are offending the Bible God!!! SHAME ON THEM CHRISTIANS…!!! “As for me and my house, “IN GOD WE TRUST” for all of our misfortunes!!! (Am I catching the Bible religion or what?) Christianity is worse than any wild pagan religion involving human sacrifice!  No wonder that the only way to pacify this whimsical sadistic God is by sacrificing his Only Begotten son in human form… after he was properly beaten to a pulp and tenderized, thoroughly marinated in Roman spit, and crucified as a “spotless Lamb of God!” How religiously primitive can you still get in today’s society…? Now Christians delightfully snack on this God’s Roman spit flavored meat and drink his Holy blood for “salvation” (John 6:53).   Europe is waking up of the Dark Ages far ahead of us here in America! I guess that Religions will still be in effect until our IQ, common sense and self esteem improve to a decent level… Hey, are we still evolving, or what?  The Bible writers were very silly to credit their idea of a God with so much EVIL when they could have done a better job blaming the Devil all along…! They would have kept me fooled to this day, too! …

Answer 7

he was practicing population control since he doesnt believe in contraception apparently  

Answer 8

Religion and superstition are the same thing its all shitte

Answer 9

If you have predetermined that you will not accept answers, why ask questions?

Answer 10

You can't blame God for things people do. You cannot blame him for things that happen naturally.

Where does it say that God is doing these things? Do you assume it's God?

It's very possible that Satan is doing these things to make people like you turn against God for everything that happens. Satan is the rule of the earth now, it's him that is to blame. Not A loving God that would sacrifice his own son for our sins.

Answer 11

According to the Christian religion, their deity himself (herself?) does not divinely interact with the world and the people that live in it, which contradicts a lot of things in the Bible (the flood, people speaking to God, the Bible itself). As for forgiving, try every other religion that has ever had a violent deity, I mean those religions that require sacrifices in order to appease their deities. They don't believe they can even hold it against the deity.

Besides the fact that it wasn't caused by a deity friend, man forges his own destiny and any deities that do exist laugh.

Answer 12

He doesn't need anyone to forgive him.  He has reasons for everything that happens.  Who are you to question His plan?

Answer 13

Firstly he didn't do those things especially the spanish inquisition that was humans not him!

Secondly it is us who must ask god for forgiveness and because of jesus we can recieve it.  It's us humans that go against his rules everday.

Answer 14

King of Swamp Castle: "Please! This is supposed to be a happy occasion. Let's not bicker and argue over who killed who."

Monty Python!

Answer 15

It is not for us to forgive God, as His purposes are beyond our comprehension.

No one is innocent. If you've broken one of His commandments just once, you are guilty. And you've broken them all. We all have.

He gave us free will. If He loved us the way you want Him to, He would turn us all into robots. No thanks!

I can kill someone in your name; does that make you responsible?

Answer 16

Forgiveness suggests belief in.

That is madness.  

Answer 17

It is my opinion that free-will is a concept that many do not want to accept because they will then have to accept responsibility for the consequences of their own decisions and actions. In every case I read in the Bible where God destroyed people it is either because they opposed His purposes or they had used free-will in such a way that they became incurably deranged. It was a mercy killing by the owner of all that is and has the power of resurrection.

Answer 18

and who did all these?