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No human can improve the thinking ability of other human beings through teaching, writing or by any other means.

Humans are only capable of helping others to realize their full thinking capabilities which means that they always had the ability to think as they do therefor you did not improve your thinking ability you merely realized what it really is and became able to use it because you have therefor acknowledged it.

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  1. Spelling. 'e' at the end of "therefor" for example. Wordy. Try and be more precise with your diction.

    You may be onto something, but i'm not sure i prescribe to your ideology. convince me!


  2. Just as a bird, as long as it gets enough food, will eventually fly on its own without training, the same is true of a human baby when it comes to thinking.  Thinking is as natural for humans as any built-in instinct in the animal kingdom.

    However, just as a human with a normal physique can spend time in the gym and develop muscles, power, strength, etc., so can a human improve his/her thinking through training/education, etc.  

    Like an athlete who repeatedly lifts a heavy weight to the point where muscle bulges out from where there used to only be flabby skin, a human, with the right sort of focused thought, can achieve much higher levels of thinking than the sort of sloppy, emotionally driven stuff that passes for thought most of the time.

    Being taught is not strictly necessary for this, but often the structure of a classroom or lecture hall offers the mind the same sort of benefits as the machines in the gym offer the athlete -- they make the goal of improvement easier to obtain.

    And no, I don' think that the thoughts were always just "there" deeply inside someone's brain.  Mental accomplishment takes work and energy just as physical accomplishment takes work.

  3. well, it does make sense, but most people would think that when you say 'thinking ability', they would think that you mean to teach someone something. i do understand what you mean. the capability had to be in the human brain to begin with, all any teacher (or other person) would have to do is unlock the understaning of it, to let the person acknowledge that they had it. yes, i do see what you meant, and i congradulate you for putting it into words as you did. :D very good!!!

    -Angel-

  4. Technically, you can improve the thinking ability of a toddler.

  5. well what the paragraph is basicaly saying is one human cannot make another human cleverer, which is true our IQ is genetic not learned someone who is not very capable can work hard to get the best grades they possibly can but they can only go so far, some people may get in to study medicine at uni and work their **** off but just not be able to get the grades they need to continue they need the ability too.

    For example a teacher is trying to teach a bright child with low confidence french, the pupil just complains that he cannot do it the teacher must help him believe he has the ability learn french for him to make an effort and oercome his mental block.

    When i was growing up i was in the shadow of my older sister my foster parents made me feel stupid as she was very intelligent because i belived she was better than me i always under achieved, when i was 16 i left home to another city and went to a college where no one knew me or my sister, i was interested in the a-levels i'd picked and stared making an effort my tutors were pleased with me i took 4 A-levels and got straight As also taking an advanced extension award in psychology,i was the highest achiver in my college's A-level department whilst living away from home and paying for myslef. My sister's A-level results were BBC. I achived higher grades in my A-levels than my GCSEs even though they are alot harder, my ability didn't improve over 6 weeks i just realised i could achiver well and used my ability.

    You may achieve well if you have the ability but first you must realise you have the ability to use it.

  6. I think that is correct. that's the whole point of IQ tests. That's a pretty smart observation!

  7. Any interaction built around the expansion of learning will improve thinking.

  8. "No human being" = not even self may improve oneself's thinking ability.

    This is disproven by e.g. the combined EEG and fMRI studies of Drs. Kounios and Jung-Beeman at MIT and Drexel Univ., later presented to DARPA.

    The use of a particular task actually builds interneuronal complexity and interconnectivity.  Hence, "training" and "visualization," building new neuronal pathways, is well-documented as improving thinking ability.

    The "always present" capacity or capability is a conflation fallacy:  the potential neuroarchetectonics are there, but not the actual empowering archetectonics.  With training, one's thinking ability improves.  An analogy:  the potential of the "Pieta" was "always" in the marble block, but Michelangelo's "training" empowered the "beauty ability."

    One does not simply "realize what always has been," in the Socratic notion of "always knew geometry."  Rather, by training, neuronetworks previously non-existent become existent, empowering more in-telling or intelligence.

    What your line of reasoning imports is similar to that found at http://www.megagenius.com in which the native genius of the human mind is brought to one's practiced attention.  However, even there, one practices one's thinking, and such practice indeed also likely develops new neuroarchetectonic ways and means of working at that level.

    "The Path of the Higher Self," Mark Prophet, is also insightful.

  9. Thinking is not limited to one thought nor one purpose nor one uniformity. A sum of what is now is not then, a sum of then is now. Thinking does not exclude the possibility of the absolute nor the quality in quantity nor the quality of true to a truth, the verification posits an equality i.e. true, or an inequality, i.e. false.

  10. i think you cant change someone's thinking and mind. it sticks till end of live

  11. Logical fallacy that likely results from lack of education with regards to neuro-sciences.

  12. that's not a paragraph. that's two sentences. and i disagree.

  13. you're saying, any pen, blunt or sharp, will write as good! sofism!!! just because you always had the ability to think, it does not mean you cannot improve that ability. it's like saying a full grown oak is no different from its seed.

  14. sorry, no time, I'm heading to bed,   GOOD NIGHT!

  15. No, i disagree. For example, none of us possess the ability to visualize like einstein because our brains are much more average.

    Einstein's brain, while actually smaller than average, was missing a small section devoted to speech that you and I have. Instead of having that section, the something operculum (i dont remember the first name), the area devoted to visualizing had grown 15% larger.

    This isn't something that we have latently within ourselves and it IS possible to teach someone in such a way that their brain will develop in a different way than others.

  16. Thinking output of an individual can certainly be improved through proper coaching and training. In such circumstances, it would be naive to argue that the thinking ability has not improved, since there is no way to identify whether the improved output is due to enhanced ability or methodology of thinking...... on the other hand, I would prefer to include methodology as an aspect of the ability itself.

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