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Couldn't Barbaro been bred with a Paint for a foal that could have raced?

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I know that the Jockey club does not allow for AI, but couldn't he have been bred to a homozygous Paint mare for a registered foal?

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  1. Karin and Newmarket are right. The Jockey Club does not allow AI nor would they allow a foal from a Paint horse mother to be registered as a Thoroughbred. And, as has been mentioned, Barbaro would have needed to mount a dummy mare in order to have s***n collected. He would not have been able to do that in the time before he was euthanized. Also, the recent HBO documentary of Barbaro mentioned that he was never tested to determine if he was fertile. It sometimes happens that stallions are not fertile so who knows if he was even fertile?


  2. No, I'm afraid not. Only pure thoroughbreds are allowed to race under rules and seeing as coloured thoroughbreds are incredibly rare - I only know of one coloured TB stallion in the whole of GB and IRE - it is highly unlikely they would have found a mare for him.

    Besides, he had a fractured hind leg and there is no way he would have been able to physically mount a mare, and as you pointed out AI is forbidden.

  3. There are many TB studs bred to APHA mares and vice versa, and they run at mixed meets.  The Jockey Club does not allow AI for TB's, but the AQHA, APHA, ApHC and the IAHC [Quarter, Paint, Appaloosa & Arabian] do allow AI and those are breeds that all have racing associations and allow foals resulting from AI to race.

    Barbaro would NEVER have been used for AI because he could not have mounted a dummy for collection.

    To answer your question, theoretically he could have but physically it would have been impossible.

  4. I don't know what the Paint registry's rules are with regards to AI, but there is no practical way they could have collected the s***n from Barbaro to inseminate a mare or mares, even if all the parties involved had wanted to.  

    I don't know if you've ever seen an AI collection done, but it requires that the stallion has to be capable of mounting either a collection dummy or a real mare. The collection is done by directing the stallion's p***s into an artificial v****a (AV) held by a handler, or an AV that is part of the collection dummy if a dummy is used.  The stallion has to be able to bear most of his weight on his hind legs for at least part of the time, and Barbaro was never physically capable of doing this.  FWIW, even had he survived, there was some doubt if he could have been used for breeding because of this.

  5. Its too bad he couldn't. He was dead right after the injury happened. Theres no way our doctors couldve helped him.

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