Cue ball queston?

Question

I was playing in a local tourment a while back open taples just a green fee we were playing with green dot coin op cue balls. one player every time somebody came up against him pulled out a red dot ball out and ask the other player if they could uses his cue ball tourment director let it go on but if I would have got to him I would have refused I got nock out before it came to us is there any ruleing on something like this he won the tourment I thouth it wasent fare but he is a good player probly would have won any way

Answer 1

Just a fun fact. not sure how i actually came upon it, but i had a cueball in a bg with other balls, and there was a big chunck of the cueball broken out(bout the size of a nickle, and about 1/2 inch deep, and i could see part of the wire cage inside the ball, that they use in coinop tables. the magnet in the table, pulls the wire caged cueball, so it goes down the cueball shoot. b4 they used to have bigger cueballs, so it would go down the cueball shoot. Im ver very picky at home, and rare times i do go to a pool hall, about the balls being clean and slick, esp the cueball. i always brought a lil car wax with me and wadded up paper towles, to polish the ball quickly. my friend refers to dirty coinop cueballs as mud balls lol. i always wanted to have a cueball cleaner, but no way way i was going 2 pay $600 for 1. so i made my own, and you can to for about $25. very easy to make, and polishes the balls in a couple minutes, to where my friend came over who is an avid player, and they were so slick he kept dropping them lol because he wasnt used to slick clean balls.(don't take that the wrong way lol)  but i took a couple 1/8 th " boards that were laying around, and cut the top off a 5 gallon bucket, put the cut edge down to the board, and liquid nailed it. im not sure of exact cut, of the bucket top, but i can check, if anyone wants to know, but i figured after the cut out top bucket ring was liquid nailed to the board, and the carpet piece liquid nailed to the floor of it, where the balls sit up above the ring about 1/4th" and i also cut out strips of rug, to line the inside of the bucket lid, and liquid nailed them on. then i took my other board and made it a circle, where when sit on top of the bucket lid, it would overhang, all around the lid at least an inch or 1 1/2", all the way around, then you liquid nail carpet to the round board(which i had reound toilet seat cover sitting atound that i used lol). ok now were to the $20 cost of the device. i got as a xmas present a car poloisher, which sat in my closet unopened for 3 years. i took the clothlike towel thingy that comes off easially to replace. so take that off, and there is about a 6 ot 8" kinda soft kinda hard 1" thick foam disk, make sure you center that to you cutout round thin board, draw a circle, around it on the board, and clean the pad, and the board, then liquid nail it together, and let it dry, and the next day you have a ball polisher:) 1st go around, just spread liquid car wax, aounds the carpet, and on the carpeted sidewalls, and some on the lid carpet. from then on i just squrit about 1/2 cup around the bottom carpet, and toss the balls in, an flip the switch, and they polish away. all u got 2do is hold the polisher center, of the bucket lid, no pressure, and let it do its thing, for a couple minutes. you can see the balls spinning around from the side, as there sticking up about 1/4th" take the balls out, i usually set them in a ball tray for about 5 to 10 min, to let them dry, and wipe them off with paper towles. and you will barelly be able to hold on to them, and you can actually turn bar table mudballs into very clean slick, balls, and you can draw the cueball much easier, with less amount of force, esp on bar tables. when putting in the sidewall carpet, make sure you dont overlap the bucket lid, with the carpet, leave about 1/4" inch down, so the machine will run smoothly, and the balls wont be touching there anyway. good luck, any questions just ask. feel free to build 1, but i do have a patent on it! so donot market it. reason im sharing, is that i would love to see bar owners, build 1, and i bet their coustmers will be very very happy with the results, and will play more. also all the home tables. be careful cutting the lid of the bucket off, and draw a line around it 1st, so u get a decentlly even cut, make sure you glue the cut edge to the board. send me pics of yours if u build 1, would love to see them, and let me know how much of a difference it makes:)  bone

Answer 2

I'm sure nobody could have forced you to play with it, if that's what you're asking.  As far as whether he should be allowed to bring in his own cue ball at all...If I were the tournament director, I wouldn't have allowed it, simply because I'd want to look out for the players that agree just because they don't want to cause a stir. So if he shows up again, I'd suggest talking to the tournament director ahead of time, and perhaps he'll look out for everybody. This guy shouldn't be having that kind of advantage. Good luck. The guys name wasn't Mike, was it?

--Lea

p.s. I'd consider it an advantage for him in two ways...one is he's playing with a cue ball he's obviously familiar with (while the bar cue ball is probably unfamiliar to him)...the other is that his opponent is playing with an unfamiliar cue ball. I'm assuming most of these players play at this bar regularly, and even though the bar cue ball doesn't react the way a regular cue ball would, it's regular to them.

Answer 3

The guy was most likely a league player. In our league, just about every team has a red dot cue ball to use for the match since the weighted bar balls suck.

I don't consider it an advantage since all he's really doing is making the balls react more like they're supposed to instead of like a messed up bar ball, but I can see how bar players who never hit the pool hall or do not play on home tables could think it's unfair.

Regarding a ruling about using them:

This came up once in our league. I was playing in the Top Shooters tournament where all the highest rating players from each division played in a tourney at the end of the session. One of the players wanted to use the red dot, and the other wanted to use the bar ball. The league director was there, and he said if there's a dispute, the bar ball must be used since it was the equipment that the bar provided with the table.

I don't think it's unfair to use a red dot, but if one player does not want to use it, the default decision should be that the bar ball is used. I don't know if the guy running your tournament handled it, but this is the correct way in my opinion. So if you don't like them, don't just agree with the guy, tell him you don't want to use it, regardless of any arguments he makes.

Answer 4

Will just depend on house rules...do no think that you should be able to change the cue ball and has happened to me....I personally like the new one with the 6 red dots on it.....I do find it a little harder when I could back to a plain one or the one with the single red dot!......I think that you would have been right in refusing!