Did Ben Gurion really write a book suggesting that Palestinians are descended from the Hebrews?

Question

Hebrews who embraced Islam at a later date? i would like to know so I can locate this book. I posted this question yesterday and someone got it deleted as Not A Question. It is a question,I assume jews find this matter sensitive. If anyone knows,please answer before the zionists get this removed.

Answer 1

Yes,according to Bosco's source,which I checked at the library.

Answer 2

Perhaps he did; Bosco seems to know what he is talking about. But the essence of the matter is the political ramifications. If today's Palestinians are descended from the Hebrews there is no doubt as to the appropriate claim to the land; in any event,it does not belong to Russian immigrants.

Answer 3

Speaking in terms of Torah, Bible, and Quran, the Jews and Muslims believe themselves descended from the same person (Abraham/Ibrahim.) Speaking in historical terms, it's very possible that, if the current Israel really is in the same location as the previous one, many Palestinians were Hebrews who converted. After all, Islam won over a billion converts worldwide; there's no reason to believe none of them were originally Jewish.

Answer 4

Now this is interesting!

Answer 5

they are envious more like.

well we as muslims and as arabs are decendents of adam, of ibrahim and of muhammed.

jews say they also come from ibrahim, so we dont come from them at all... more likely persia or other natives in teh middle east.

ma salaama

Answer 6

Yes. By the way,I'm glad you had the courage to repost since I saw it last night and knew the answer but not in specific terms such as source,etc. It certainly is a question,so before this gets deleted here's your answer to this alleged non-question:

Tom Segev,in a footnote on page 175 of his book "One Palestine,Complete" (Metropolitan Books: New York,2000) remarks as follows: "While in exile in the United States,David Ben Gurion and Yitzhak Ben-Zvi wrote a book on Palestine in Yiddish that promulgated the idea that the Arab fellah were...descendents of the ancient Jews".  His source is given as a Hebrew translation published in Jerusalem in 1979 by Yad Ben-Zvi under the title "Palestine in the Past and Present". I wish it were available in English since it is not only a fascinating hypothesis but quite realistic; not all of the jews could have been expelled by the Romans - in fact,as far as we know they only expelled the Judeans - so it would make sense that a large remnant remained and eventually became Muslims. I can see why this would be a sensitive point politically,given that the zionist claim of birthright and corresponding "right" to dispossess the Pals is predicated on the idea that they are not ultimately indigenous,whereas the Ashkenazi are; actually,the latter - the Russian-origin jews or ostjuden - are descended from the Khazars,not the Hebrews. If Ben Gurion's little-known thesis is correct,then by zionism's own logic the Palestinians are the heirs to the land.

A good question and,I hope,a good answer.

Answer 7

Bosco,

That is a point I have made before.

It is nice to see ben-gurion admit that Palestine existed in the past as well.

The history of the Russian zionists has been traced here http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/9669...

all the best.

Answer 8

I don't know if he did or not.  Here's what I understand on the subject...

Generically, all the descendants of Abraham—Ishmael, Isaac, and Midian, and their progeny—are Hebrews. However, the name Israel only pertains to the descendants of Jacob, son of Isaac. His posterity are therefore Israelites and also Hebrews.

In order to differentiate the terms, we need to emphasize the fact that while Judah’s progeny are at the same time Jews (descendants of Judah), Israelites (descendants of Jacob), and Hebrews (descendants of Abraham), all Hebrews are not Israelites.

Abraham became the progenitor of a numerous people, the Hebrews. The etymology is thought by some to be heber (other side), suggesting a people from the other side of the Euphrates, the area of Abraham’s origin (Ur of the Chaldees).

Thus, the descendants of this great patriarch might be designated as Hebrew: Ishmael, the son of Abraham’s wife Hagar, and Midian, the son of Abraham’s wife Keturah, the progeny of both being frequent antagonists of the posterity of another son, Isaac, the promised child of Abraham’s aged wife Sarah. Many of the peoples now greatly disturbed over the present country of Israel may be descendants of Abraham, whether Jew or Arab, and thus all Hebrew.