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Did God evolve or is the bible itself proof of human evolution?

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The biblical God changes from a complete barbaric, tribal God( his laws about stoning disobedient kids to death, owning slaves and beat them, sens bears to tore kids apart that mocked a bald man, stoning people that worked on the sabbath, INCEST and the list goes on)

-if you Christians have not read your own bible I will be more than glad to provide all those verses that talk about your" loving" God that allowed and demanded all sorts of atrocities-.

In the New Testament he changes into a kinder God, more compassionate with Jesus(exept the part of torturing people forever that did not believe in him).

Does this show the human evolution from completely barbaric people to a bit more civilized? or is this God evolving from a wrathful God into a "loving" God?

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  1. I think, if the Biblical God is real, she MUST be a woman. Men don't have that bad of mood swings. Only women have that sort of monthly cycle, and if those who say Genesis wasn't 7 literal days, then I guess the thousand of years presented by the OT would be proof of that....


  2. It shows the evolution of thought that changes over time.

  3. god doesn't exist so didn't evolve.

    The bible proves nothing except that some people can be incredibly gullible

    EDIT: your belief that a non-existent entity that is no more than a figment of a bronze-age imagination can in any way evolve is pathetic.  Even if such an entity existed, what possible force of natural selection could there be that would cause such a being to evolve in any way? Your understanding of what god was perceived to be (omniscient and omnipotent) is pathetic. Omniscience and omnipotence means that there is no possiblity of god evolving - he would already have known (and decided) what he would become and could have either chosen to change or not to change.  This is NOT evolution.  Educate yourself before you start talking about things beyon your understanding.

  4. Ok, in the OT, there was a theocracy going on in the nation of Israel, so a lot of those laws were the civil laws that any nation requires.  Slaves in Israel also were very different than the slavery that happened in America.  Slaves then were more of the indentured servant variety, who, because of debt, sold themselves, instead of the kidnapping that happened with American slaves.

    If you also have actually read the bible (I'd recommend actually reading the whole thing, not just listening to what other people say -- chances are they haven't really read the whole thing either) , incest wasn't outlawed until the times around Moses.  Think about it: if the bible is true (which I hold), there just weren't that many other people to mate with.  That, and presuming that human DNA was perfect at the beginning and has been declining since the fall, the number of defective mutations within people's DNA were a whole lot less, so the problems that would be encountered now would've been very rare.

    The atrocities and eternal punishment mentioned both in the old and new testaments, you mention have one backing assumption: that the receivers of punishment didn't deserve it.  The short answer is that they did, as we do.  Since God created the universe, He gets to set the rules.

    God is loving and merciful.  What?  That doesn't make any sense!  Let me explain.  On the whole, people think they're good.  That's the problem, because we're not.  The bible says the heart is deceitfully wicked, who can know it?  We all know it's wrong to lie and steal, but we've all done it, knowing it was wrong.  So we're all liars and thieves.  We know it's wrong to commit adultery, and Jesus said that looking at somebody with sexual desire is the same as adultery and we've done that.  We know murder is wrong, and the bible says that hatred is the same as murder.  So then, we're murderers and adulterers.  Suppose we could take a computer chip that would record every thought and every action, etc. for about two weeks, and then we'd put the thing on YouTube and invite everybody you know and thought about in those two weeks to watch.  If this even remotely would make you uncomfortable, that shows that you know there's a problem.

    So when we die, you get to meet God and be judged for your actions.  Given the wrong we've done, we're going to be guilty.  Much like an earthly court, it doesn't matter if you've done any good, law breaking is all the court cares about, and with God it's the same.  So being guilty, we're going to be punished.  God's mercy is that He didn't zap us the first time we sinned.  So the NT God is just as wrath filled as the OT God -- because it's the same God -- He doesn't change.  So no evolution.  Same God.

    There's more to the story of God's love, but my guess is that you aren't interested.

  5. It shows the evolution of myth according to man's level of civilization, that's for sure.

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