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Did Muhammad (saw) not say he was the "seal of the prophets"?

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From the references I have read on this site, how can Mirza Ghulam be Isa, Imam Mahdi, a Prophet, and at the same time, God?

That makes no sense.

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  1. Dear,

    Peace upon you.

    In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.

    Please to Surah Al-Fathihah and Surah Al-Ikhlas. Just a bit of Fathihah. God Al-Mighty Allah is the Master of the Day of Judgement for all mankind. No mankind can be the Master of the Day of Judgement. Master of the Day of Judgement is the creator and governor of the universe. Created Jinns and mankind to worship HIM. Make mankind as agent on earth. On that very day no soul can be of any help to any other soul. In Surah Al-Ikhlas, the last verse NONE is equal to HIM. Therefore no mankind are like Al-Mighty God Allah Subhanhu Wata'ala. There's NO Prophet after Prophet Muhammad Sallallahhu'alaihi Wassalam. Any Prophet after Prophet Muhammad Sallallahhu'alaihi Wassalam are FALSE Prophet.

    Thank you.

    Wabillahhitaufiq Walhidayah Wassalamu'alaikum Warahmatullahhi Wabarakatuh.


  2. Muhammad (pbuh) said no prophet will come after him. And he (pbuh) warned us of false prophets comming after hi.

    We know that the final sign of the Day of Judgement is when Isa(AS) will come and fight the dajjal....and then Day of Judgement will come. How long has it been since that imposter died, and still Day of Judgement hasnt come? Mirza is just a man who claimed to be prophet so he can get the money. Hes not a prophet. Muhammad pbuh is the last and final prophet.

    @asker: so u dont like my answer? i can make it longer, but i didnt think u will read it lol

  3. i agree with all the above answers!!

    i just wanna say that QFactor is using hadiths in wrong place!!

    he is interrupting hadiths!!

  4. The Ahmadis and some other cults say the verse everyone uses is not correctly translated/interpreted. the word "khatem" means ring but people have translated and interpreted it to mean final.

    Anyway, there are many hadiths that state Muhammed (SAW) is the final prophet like:

    The Prophet said to Ali (AS) you are to me like haroon (PBUH) was to Musa (PBUH) except there is no prophet after me.

    Their arguments are not right and their prophets have failed to do anything significant like the real Prophet Muhammed (SAW).

  5. Allah (s.w.t) has said in the Holy Quran:

    Muhammad (SAW) is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allâh and the last (end) of the Prophets[]. And Allâh is Ever All Aware of everything. (Sura Al-Ahzab: Verse 40)

    "The tribe of Israel was guided by prophets. When a prophet passed away, another succeeded him. But NO PROPHET will come after me; only caliphs will succeed me." (Sahih Bukhari)

    "The Hour will not come ... until nearly thirty "dajjals" (liars) appear, each one claiming to be a messenger from Allah." (Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim)

    In the sermon of our Beloved Prophet (pbuh) at Arafat, He said: O People, no prophet or apostle will come after me and no new faith will be born. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand my words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the Qur'an and my example, the Sunnah and if you follow these you will never go astray.


  6. There is only one Allah and his last and seal of all prophets is Muhammad (s) the best of mankind, and al-mahdi (3) is his Imam when Allah wills, he wills, may Allah hasten his return

  7. Because he and his followers or people make such blatant lies and create a new Islam in order to fulfill their desires. Such people still live on to tarnish the beauty of Islam. What motivates them, I wonder.

    It's all lies. Mirza Ghulam is not what he claims he is except a liar.

    Thumb me down, for all I care. What these people believe is not Islam but a bunch of lies.

    edit: There are extremists everywhere.

  8. [33:40] Muhammad was not the father of any man among you. He was a messenger of GOD and the final prophet. GOD is fully aware of all things.


  9. Is the testimony of Quran not enough !!!!

    When the Quran says that Mohammad is the Last of the prophets, then that is it. Now who ever does not believe that, is certainly NOT a believer, for he / she has disbelieved in the message (Quran).


  10. according to 1qfactor a seal could be anything like Allah says in soorah baqara' khatamallahu 'la quloobihim wa 'la sam'ihim wa 'la absaarihim...' Allah has sealed their eyes, ears, hearts with a veil and for them is a painful tornment.

    but this brother is for the disbelievers and the non believers . and he says it could mean this as well!! how could it mean this for a prophet!??!!

    and if it is this, then i'll explain this aswell .when Allah has covered their eyes and hearts and ears the doors of hearing, sight, understanding are closed. the same way the doors of prophethood are closed after the prophet arived.

    anyway this exp of seal cud be any thing was the first time i heard. most ahmedies say that it's cuz Muhammed had a seal on the back of his body and expl to that...allah says he's khaatemul ambiaa seal of the prophets not prophet with a seal!

    he says we believe that isa will come and he's a prophet aswell! i'll clear that out too. Isa will come as a man from this ommah. no devine revelatiopns will come down to isa. he'll be just like you and me following the prophet.

    imam mehdi is not a prophet!he'll just help restore islaam on lands bring khilafah and help in killing yajooj majooj(gog and magog)[story of soora kahaf].

    any way all of us would love to be like the prophets right?? so lets follow the last prophet MUHAMMED and ahmedies you want the seal you got it. your eyes, hearts are closed. thats cuz u wanted them. and thats the main reason as to why you pple won't understand!

    @__@: 'Certain traditions do state that Mahdi and Isa are one.'

    traditions might say but the prophet never said. i don't know if your mirza guy said but the true last prophet of islaam never said.

    and your stamp thingy i have cleared it in my answer.and about the greatest prophet or the king of prophets was ibraheem(as) cuz Allah says in the Quraan 'jaa'iluka linnaasi imama' made you the leader for mankind!(soora baqara) ao mankind includes the prophets aswell !

    baadi doesn't mean after me?? from whom did you learn arabic brother? ba'ad is after and y or i is added to say me or mine for ex, bayti my house. minnee from me similarly ba'adi means after me.

    and whats the point of telling haroon died while moosa was alive. it has no connection to the lame expl you gave brother.

    may Allah guide us all.

  11. Hazrat Ahmad (as) never claimed to be God.  To see a full explanation, I already answered this question.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

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    Next, the Prophet (sa) was clear that Imam Mahdi and Messih will be the same person.

    Based on the Hadeeth, it is clear that Messih and Mahdi are  two titles given to the same person.  Allow me to explain.  

    This is a veiw accepted by severeal well known scholars, in the modern day and in early Islam. Also, there are well documented authentic Hadeeth clarifying as such.

    For example.

    “As far as I have understood the belief of Jamaat Ahmadiyya their view that Jesus (as) died like any other mortal and that the Second Coming of Messiah means a new person in his image and spirit will be born, appears to be reasonable and carries merit.” (Alama Iqbal’s reply to Pundit Jawarlal Nehru, Printed at Brandreth Road Lahore on 2/17/1936, page 22)

    “Some believe that the soul of Jesus will manifest in Mahdi and the descent only means his Buruz.” (Sheikh Muhammad Akram Sabri - (Iqtibasul Anwar, p. 52) )

    The following Hadeeth provide evidence that in fact Mahdi and Messih will be two titles held by the same person.  

    The Prophet (sa) said,

    “It is just possible that he who lives of you might meet Jesus the son of Mary who is the Mahdi and a just judge. He will break the cross and kill the swine…” (Masnad Ahmad bin Hanbal, Vol. II, p. 411, related by Hazrat Abu Huraira (ra))

    The Prophet (sa) also said,

    “The Mahdi is no other than the Messiah.” (Ibn Maja, Kitab-ul-Fitan, Babu Shiddatizzamanni; Mustadrak)

    This above Hadith was narrated by Muhammad bin Khalid Jundi on the authority of Aban bin Saleh who related it on the authority of Hasan Basri who related it on the authority of Hazrat Anas bin Malik (ra) who heard it from the Holy Prophet (saw).

    Ibn Khaldun states, “Ibn Abi Wateel and Shaiba have said that there has been discussion about the Mahdi being the Messiah who would be from the progeny of the Holy Prophet (saw). I would like to say that this view is held by Sufis too. They base their view on the Hadith ‘La Mahdi Illah Isa –There is no Mahdi but Jesus (as)’, meaning Mahdi and Messiah would be from the Ummah of the Holy Prophet (saw).” (Tarikh Ibn Khaldun Vol. I, p. 273)

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    Regarding Khatamanabiyyeen, indeed it means Seal (as in validation, mark, emblam) of the Prophets, and not finality of Prophethood.  

    This is what the Prophet (sa) as well as the early Muslims themselves believed.  

    For example.

    Authentic Arabic Lexicons ((Lane); (Aqrab); (Mufradat); (Fath); (Zurqani) state that Khatam can mean 1) seal, stamp, mark, imprint, impress; 2) best and most perfect, embellishment or ornament; 3) to secure, protect oneself against a thing; 4) signet ring; 5) produce an impression or effect upon a thing; 6) the end or last part of a thing. Allah uses Khatam with a fatha, a stroke above  and not with a kasra, which is a stroke below. Khatam’s primary meaning is seal, while khatim would definitively mean the last person/one.

    Next I cite none other than Imam Bukhari himself.

    Imam Bukhari has commented on this verse and said this means a mark on the Prophet (saw) holy person. Prophet Muhammad (saw) is Khatam in the sense that he is the possessor of the Seal of Prophets, without whose certification no one can even be considered to be a true prophet. He is Khatam in the sense that he is the best and quintessential example of a prophet. He is Khatam in the sense that like the signet ring he wore and used to seal documents,[2] he can create an impression of his character on whomsoever is worthy of receiving it. He is Khatam as he bore a birthmark[3] on his back that allowed Hazrat Salman Farsi (ra) to declare he was a true prophet. This birthmark was literally referred to as “Khatam An-Nubuwwa.”

    Here are the authentic references of the above quote.  Nowhere does Imam Bukhari state that it means last or Prophets.  Instead he defines Muhammad (sa) as the Seal of Prophets in the sense that , " without whose certification no one can even be considered to be a true prophet"

    [2] (Sahih Jami’ Bukhari, Vol. I, Book 3, #65, Book 10, #546, Book 11, #630; Vol. IV, Book 52, #189, Book 53, #338; Vol. VII, Book 72, #755-759, 761-764, 766-767; Vol. IX, Book 89, #276); (Sahih Jami’ Muslim, Book 4, #1336-1338; Ch. 11-12, Book 24, #5212-5229); (Sahih Jami’ Tirmidhi, Ch. 11, #1-8; Ch. 12, #1-9); (Sunan Abu Daud, Book 1, #19; Book 34, #4212, 4214-4215, 4217)

    [3] (Sahih Jami’ Bukhari, Vol. I, Book 4, #189; Vol. IV, Book 52, 305, Book 56, #741; Vol. VII, Book 70, #574; Vol. VIII, Book 73, #22, Book 75, #363); (Sahih Jami’ Muslim, Ch. 27-28, Book 30, #5789-5793); (Sahih Jami’ Tirmidhi, Ch.2, #1-8); (Sunan Abu Daud, Book 32, #4071)

    Here is the testimony of one of the most well known scholars of Islam.

    Hazrat Maulvi Abul Qaseem Nantovi, the renowned founder of the Deoband Academy states, “In the conception of the masses the Holy Prophet (saw) was Khatam in the sense that he came after all the other prophets and that he was the last prophet of all. But it is evident that in the estimation of the wise no superiority whatever attaches to precedence in time or its reverse … If a prophet appeared after the Holy Prophet (saw), it would in no way affect his finality.” (Tahzirunnas, Saharanpur, pp. 3, 28)

    But there is much much more evidence.  Below I provide just a few more unique Hadeeth that are very relavent to this situation.

    Abu Bakr is the best of men after me except a prophet should appear.”[(Kanzul Ummal)

    “Abu Bakr is the best of the people after me except one who may be a prophet.”[(Tabrani Kabir Kamil Ibne Adi quoted in Jame Saghir by Imam Suyuti, p.5)

    “Abu Bakr is the best of my followers except anyone who might be a prophet.”[(Dalmy quoted by Kanzul Haqaiq of Imam Mondadi, p. 7)

    “Abu Bakr holds the highest place in this Ummah except that a prophet is raised amongst them.”[(Kanzul Haqaiqi Hadith Khair-el-Khalaiq by Alama Abdur Rauf, Munavi)

    The above Hadeeth are perfectly in conjunction with 7:35 of the Holy Qur'an where Allah says that Messengers will come from amongst the children of Adam, and not from some other place.

    I close with a Hadeeth of none other than Hazrat Ayesha (rz), who single handedly reported more than 1/2 of the Hadeeth of our Beloved Prophet (sa).

    Hazrat Ayesha (ra) stated

    “Certainly, do say, he, (The Holy Prophet), is the Seal of all Prophets, but do not say, there is no prophet after him.” (Takmala Majma-ul-Bihar p.15; Vol. 4, p. 85 by Hazrat Imam Sheikh Muhammad Tahir Gujrati)

    Another recording of this Hadeeth says,

    “You should assert that he is Khatam-al-Nabiyyin but never say there can be no prophet after him.”(Tafsir Durre Mansoor vol.5 p.114, 204 by Imam Jalal-ud-Din Suyuti)

    How much more clear could Hazrat Ayesha (rz) be???

    Hence, it is very clear as to what the true meaning of Khatamanabiyyeen actually is.  Not a single citation I gave is from an Ahmadi Muslim but all from universally accepted Muslim scholars.  The proofs are countless but as you can see by the length of this posting, I have already established enough things.  May Allah guide all Muslims, insha'allah and always.

    love for all, hatred for none

  12. First you have to look at what Khatamun Nabiyeen means. Does it mean last prophet, or stamp (as in authentication, or greatest of) the prophets. The verse where it is mentioned is a verse which was revealed as a rebuttal to the criticism launched against the Holy Prophet (saw) for his marriage with Hadhrat Zainab (ra). The second meaning fits much better within the context of the verse.

    Just as the Jews were waiting for Elijah when Jesus came, the Muslims were waiting for Jesus when they're Messiah came. The prophethood of Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) is a subordinate prophethood (in other words he is an ummati prophet).

    Certain traditions do state that Mahdi and Isa are one.

    He is but a humble servant of God.

    Shadow please look at the time during that hadith was said (Holy Prophet (saw) was leaving and Hadhrat Ali (ra) was to be in charge of Madina). Also please realize Haroon passed away while Moses was alive. Therefore baadi doesn't mean after me.

    Hazrat Waliullah Shah, Mohaddith of Delhi in his memorable work entitled Qurratul `Ainain fi Tafzilishaikhain, writes:

    "Here the meaning of Ba'di is evidently except my person, not in the sense of after me in terms of time as in the verse, namely, Faman Yahdi-he min badillahe .

    http://www.alislam.org/library/books/tru...

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    By traditions I mean hadith brother so yes it's coming from the  Holy Prophet (saw). And the highest of all Prophets, and the most perfect man was Holy Prophet (saw)

  13. He was called the seal of the prophet  because he had ther prophetic mark  a big hairy mole on his back.

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