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Did Palestine ever exist as a nation ?

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  1. no, never. the only state there was the ancient state of israel, then there were years of occupation by empires, starting with the roman and ending with the ottoman. the region of palestine was then split into the nations of israel and jordan.


  2. The land of Palestine has been populated by the Arabs 5000 years ago. This has been long ago in history, from the time of the Canaanite Arabs who migrated from the Arabian Peninsula to Palestine (Canaan). Several nations came in and out of this land, but the Muslims/Arabs stayed. O.S. Edwards, a historian, quotes in his book: "According to the best authorities-on the results of the archaeo-, anthropo-, and ethno-logical research-- considerable proportion of the Palestinians whom we call Arabs have an ancestral domicile in Palestine going back without a break to centuries before the Children of Israel entered the country." Except for a century of Christian dominance during the crusades, Palestine remained under Muslim control; either Arab or Turkish, from the 7th to the 20th century. The Ottoman Empire ruled from 1517-1917/18. In 1906 the Zionist congress decided that the Jewish homeland should be Palestine after changing their first declaration in 1904, where they decided that a national home for Jews would be in Argentina. We all know the rest of history with the Belford declaration in 1917, the mandate for Palestine in 1922 that I will further discuss later on. These are simple facts that clearly points out the reality of existance of the "nation" and the land for the Palestinian people long before 1917.

    Please do your researches before you give wrong and sarcastic answers.

  3. Sorry to come down to Semantics (in the sense of pure meaning of words)

    But that is what this world has become, just a big game of words, where meanings are changed to suit ones own wishes and desires towards either a personal truth or that which suits that of the group which you and others follow!

    Nation

        c.1300, from O.Fr. nacion, from L. nationem (nom. natio) "nation, stock, race," lit. "that which has been born," from natus, pp. of nasci "be born" (see native). Political sense has gradually taken over from racial meaning "large group of people with common ancestry." Older sense preserved in application to N.Amer. Indian peoples (1650). Nationality "the fact of belonging to a particular nation" is from 1828. Nation-building first attested 1907 (implied in nation-builder). National is from 1597; national anthem first recorded 1819, in Shelley. Nationalize "bring under state control" is from 1869.

    So will you deny that those born in a particular place have the right to state this in land in which they were born was there birth place and therefore Native to them as they are Native to it!

    You will have to truly look into your heart for this answer, politics and politician will not tell you the truth here!

    ADDED. As for boarders, this is really quite a philosophical concept, if you think deeply about it!

  4. my answer is NO

    The term "Palestine" is believed to be derived from the Philistines, an Aegean people who, in the 12th Century B.C.E., settled along the Mediterranean coastal plain of what are now Israel and the Gaza Strip. In the second century C.E., after crushing the last Jewish revolt, the Romans first applied the name Palaestina to Judea (the southern portion of what is now called the West Bank) in an attempt to minimize Jewish identification with the land of Israel. The Arabic word "Filastin" is derived from this Latin name.

    The Hebrews entered the Land of Israel about 1300 B.C.E., living under a tribal confederation until being united under the first monarch, King Saul. The second king, David, established Jerusalem as the capital around 1000 B.C.E. David's son, Solomon built the Temple soon thereafter and consolidated the military, administrative and religious functions of the kingdom. The nation was divided under Solomon's son, with the northern kingdom (Israel) lasting until 722 B.C.E., when the Assyrians destroyed it, and the southern kingdom (Judah) surviving until the Babylonian conquest in 586 B.C.E. The Jewish people enjoyed brief periods of sovereignty afterward before most Jews were finally driven from their homeland in 135 C.E.

    Jewish independence in the Land of Israel lasted for more than 400 years. This is much longer than Americans have enjoyed independence in what has become known as the United States.4 In fact, if not for foreign conquerors, Israel would be 3,000 years old today.

    Palestine was never an exclusively Arab country, although Arabic gradually became the language of most the population after the Muslim invasions of the seventh century. No independent Arab or Palestinian state ever existed in Palestine. When the distinguished Arab-American historian, Princeton University Prof. Philip Hitti, testified against partition before the Anglo-American Committee in 1946, he said: "There is no such thing as 'Palestine' in history, absolutely not."

    Prior to partition, Palestinian Arabs did not view themselves as having a separate identity. When the First Congress of Muslim-Christian Associations met in Jerusalem in February 1919 to choose Palestinian representatives for the Paris Peace Conference, the following resolution was adopted:

    We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds.

    In 1937, a local Arab leader, Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, told the Peel Commission, which ultimately suggested the partition of Palestine: "There is no such country [as Palestine]! 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria."

    The representative of the Arab Higher Committee to the United Nations submitted a statement to the General Assembly in May 1947 that said "Palestine was part of the Province of Syria" and that, "politically, the Arabs of Palestine were not independent in the sense of forming a separate political entity." A few years later, Ahmed Shuqeiri, later the chairman of the PLO, told the Security Council: "It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria."

    Palestinian Arab nationalism is largely a post-World War I phenomenon that did not become a significant political movement until after the 1967 Six-Day War and Israel's capture of the West Bank


  5. Palestine never in history existed as an independent country. The name Palestine only referred to the name of the region. Before 1948 it was a British territory and before that it was a province of the Ottoman empire. If you go back as far as the Byzantines, Romans and the ancient Hebrews you still will never find a time that Palestine was an independent nation.

  6. Yes it did

    its obvious they were not selfgovern, but they did/do have their own culture, language (Arabic), and morals.

    if thats not a nation, then I dont know what is!

  7. sure it was all the time till 1948 when jewish people came from europe and occupied palestine and established the country of israel which was established in 1948(and i know i mentioned that for the second time). most arabs were expelled from there home, but not all of them and now 20% of israel natives are arab. i would also like to mention that before 1948 palestine (which is israel today) had only 2% jewish people and 98% arab (islam and christians arab)

  8. No

  9. No, Palestine has never been a country. in fact, whoever settled in Palestine was referred to as a Palestinian, thus, Palestine's only the name of the region.

    Palestine it might be the name of region, but before it was renamed by the Romans as an outcome of the Jewish rebellions, the region was named Judaea. (in the name of Judah, land of the Jews)

  10. Always & forever.

  11. Sam,

    What is your definition for a NATION?

    According to http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/n...

    A nation is:

    1. a large body of people, associated with a particular territory, that is sufficiently conscious of its unity to seek or to possess a government peculiarly its own: The president spoke to the nation about the new tax.

    2. the territory or country itself: the nations of Central America.

    According to http://www.answers.com/topic/nation

    A nation is

    Dictionary:

    nation

    (nā'shən) pronunciation

    1. A relatively large group of people organized under a single, usually independent government; a country.

    2. The territory occupied by such a group of people: All across the nation, people are voting their representatives out.

    2. The government of a sovereign state.

    3. A people who share common customs, origins, history, and frequently language; a nationality: “Historically the Ukrainians are an ancient nation which has persisted and survived through terrible calamity” (Robert Conquest).

    4.

    1. A federation or tribe, especially one composed of Native Americans.

    2. The territory occupied by such a federation or tribe.

    So the answer is YES

    Thank you

  12. yes but under control of the british empire.

    and in this nation, there were people who spoke arabic, called palestinians ( = ] ) but unfourtunately, about 60 years ago, our country and people were being killed, and were replaced. our home was taken, we had to move to another country.

    today when i say that im from palestine, and people respond by saying " where is that"

    its sad, as if we were never there and we never existed, but history doesnt lie.

    and one day, i will get my country back, and Palestine will be a well known country inshallah!


  13. A group of people can be called a nation not a land (land is called country).

    The Palestinian people have always existed as a nation with their own culture, their own dialect, and their own traditions and customs wherever they are. It doesn't matter whether they had a country called Palestine or whether they where kicked out of their land.


  14. Never.  

  15. Yes, they  did and they still do.  

  16. No.

    If there had been such a nation, who was its ruler?  What was its currency?

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  17. Of course, in the modern history as well as in the hold history before the crusade

    in the modern history, the FIFA was admitting Palestine as a country and played world cup qualifications in 1934 and in 1938

    http://www.rsssf.com/tablesi/isra-intres...

    This indicates Palestine was recognized as a country. Also, how Jews used to live among Palestinians. That 1930s was the era of tension when more and more jews migrated to Palestine after 1917 Balfour promise.

    in the old history: any reading in history will tell you how jews lived in peace among muslims in Palestine for many years, till the Crusade came and did mass killing for Jews.

  18. Since 500 B.C. according to Herodotus.  

  19. If it did then why does only one religion insist on keeping that name despite the fact that members of other religions were called Palestinians too? And why do only SOME members of this religion insist on keeping that name even though many other members of this religion were too once part of this nation? And why does this nation insist on liberating only a very small fraction of it's historical territory?

  20. It was. Until about 50 years ago i was.

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