Did "Bin Gurrion" teach Israelis these rules ?

Question

True of false ? that is the question.. answers with proofs are appreciated.

In his writings(books) and speeches."Bin Gurrion" once said :

" If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the n***s, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"

"We must expel Arabs and take their places."

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."

Answer 1

Ther is no Bin Gurrion in Israel History, so how I can know what a non exsitant man said?

Answer 2

Ben Gurion's diaries have been a revelation to scholars. And yes,all zionist policy is a product of his "values" - if the term may be appied to so brutish a mentality. He was highly atavistic,a true throw-back to a thankfully dead era. The purpose of zionism is to reduce the world to the values of ancient barbarism.  

Answer 3

there was no such person, so of course those quotes are made up.

Answer 4

My brother , don't be offended. Those zionists here are one of two :

1- Either they are " cowards" : they can't admit that these quotes belong to ben gurion.

2- Or they are  NOT PROUD  of this "stylish gentleman" who was named ben gurion

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Answer 5

yes he did

Answer 6

Your spelling refers to no one who ever existed.

So the answer is definitely no.

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Answer 7

They are false. They are faked quotes that have made their rounds around many anti Israel websites.

And for the record, the burden of proof is upon YOU to prove they are true, not for us to prove they are false.

And his name was "David Ben Gurion". (Get the name correct, at least.)

You may find the following interesting:

(About halfway down it deals with made up or distorted quotes from Ben Gurion.)

http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_contex...

Update:

TTT to tell the truth: To point out that certain quotes from anyone are false is not "cowardly". It is never cowardly to tell the truth (one would think you'd know that based on your alias). However, like I said, it is a matter of on whom the burden of proof lies. Since Ben Gurion's actual position on Arabs (that's based on actual quotes, see linked article) was at odds with the stated quotes in the question, then one can justifyably suspect that they are forgeries or out of context.

As soon as you or the asker provides a legitimate source that demonstrates that Ben Gurion actually said the above then I will freely admit that he said them. But until then, there is absolutely no reason why we should believe it.

Considering that "TTT to tell the truth" is the type of person who will put out childish insults instead of anwering questions intelligently (e.g. he recently said that I had Alzheimer's in response to one of my points) I am quite sure that he will not even bother to attempt to engage in any sort of proof.

Answer 8

Your computer needs to get its facts straight. Bin Gurrion never existed

and Ben Gurion never made those statements!

Answer 9

More things he said

Courage is a special kind of knowledge: the knowledge of how to fear what ought to be feared and how not to fear what ought no to be feared.

Suffering makes a people greater, and we have suffered much. We had a message to give the world, but we were overwhelmed, and the message was cut off in the middle. In time there will be millions of us - becoming stronger and stronger - and we will complete the message.

How about these from Yasser Arafat

We plan to eliminate the state of Israel and establish a purely Palestinian state. We will make life unbearable for Jews by psychological warfare and population explosion. We Palestinians will take over everything, including all of Jerusalem.

We will not bend or fail until the blood of every last Jew from the youngest child to the oldest elder is spilt to redeem our land!

Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an all-out war, a war which will last for generations.