Die hard Catholics have you heard of this prophecy?

Question

*and think to change times and laws...

Dan 7:25 And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

The 4th commmandment law is...

Exd 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

The papacy is the one organization on earth which claims that it is responsible for the change from Sabbath to Sunday.

Answer 1

The fourth commandment is to honor your father and mother. However, you are making too big of an issue out of this. Even Jesus indicated that the spirit of the law was more important than the letter of the law. And so, are you honoring the Sabbath? That is more important then this technical sfuff.  

Answer 2

You can't change their minds. I've brought up the fact that Jesus himself said not to call any man on Earth "father", for our Father is in Heaven, but they don't like that either.

Answer 3

It's a little hard to use the cannon aganist the Catholic Church.  See, it was the Catholic Church that COMPILED the cannon in the first place.

Check history.  The books that went into the Bible were chosen out of many, many books that were called "gospels" at the time.  The church chose which books would go into the cannon at the Council of  Nicaea in the 300's A.D.

The Bible is a COMPILATION.

Answer 4

who said the sabbath was saturday

Answer 5

"Die hard Catholics"?  How about most of Christianity, except for those who are hung up on legalism?

I let no man (or woman) judge me with respect to the sabbath:

Colossians 2:16-17: Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Answer 6

Colossians 2:14 says that the Laws of Moses have been cancelled.

Have you read that?

Answer 7

Hello,

Not quite:

If Rome changed the Sabbath to Sunday, it would only explain why Protestants and Roman Catholics worship on Sunday. It would not explain why Orthodox Christians worship on Sunday, and it certainly would not explain why Syriac, the Armenian, and Coptic Christians worship on Sunday, because they had very little contact with Rome until modern times. For example, the Armenian Apostolic Church does not celebrate Christmas, which originated in Rome in the fourth century. Instead, they celebrate the nativity of Jesus Christ on Epiphany. Rome could only have changed the day of worship before the fall of the Roman Empire, because after then communications weren’t good enough. However, during that period, Rome did not have much influence in the east.

Did the Emperor Constantine do it?

Constantine converted to Christianity after winning the battle of the Milvian Bridge. He wasn’t a very bright man and he did not have a coherent personal theology. After he became emperor, he reformed the tax system, passed laws protecting widows and orphans, donated money to churches, and sent his mother Helen to the Holy Land to preserve and restore all those sites that tourists visit even today. He passed a law that made all religions legal, and that ended the persecution of Christians. He convened and paid for the first ecumenical council in AD 325, but he was unable to understand the debates, let alone participate in them. He also changed the Roman week from ten days to seven days, so that Sunday, the Christian day of worship would always be a holiday. He did not make Christianity the state religion or do any of the other evil things often attributed to him—they were actually done by his successor, Theodosius, eighty years later. When Constantine instituted the seven-day week, he did it because Christians were already worshiping on Sunday and his purpose was to make it easier for them.

Cheers,

Michael Kelly

Answer 8

Odd, I got "daylight savings time" out of that, I guess one really can extrapolate anything from the Bible.

Answer 9

We have, but we don't see it the way you do.  Nor do we interpret it with the same frame of mind as you do, which glorifies anything OT and forgetting all these things, including the wrong concept of the Sabbath, have been nailed on the Cross with Christ.  

Answer 10

Don't rag on catholics. Their beliefs are no more delusional than yours are.