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Different Views on Global Warming?

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As you all know, we can't do anything anymore without hearing about Global Warming. I have heard many things about how it is affecting our planet and what we can do to stop it. However, I have also heard that Global Warming is not much of a threat and not man-made; that it would have happen whether we as humans were or not. So, I like to hear your views about Global Warming (no matter what they are) and back it up with good SCIENTFIC evidence.

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  1. Ralph Nader beleives in Global Warming. Al Gore beleives in Global warming. They have seen scientific evidence. I beleive them.


  2. For those people that say global warming is not real or that it is not going to affect us because it always happens are IDIOTS! Why, ell the evidence is there in soil and ice samples that climate change has always existed but the way that man pollutes was never a factor in those findings.  Using your own common sense knowing with all the c**p we have put into the air and soil and water, Nature can only clean up so much.  We are killing ourselves with these new diseases that are being created because of pollution.  If the worlds climate changes and there are droughts and famine and severe storms what do you think will happen to our society.  It will break down and the science fiction of the past will become the fact of tomorrows that are fast approaching.  Yes climate change is inevitable but because of mans polluting ways it's happening too fast too soon.  And we all will suffer!

  3. Global warming is real and mostly caused by us.  Three reasons, with solid support, most important first.

    There's an overwhelming amount of peer reviewed scientific data that says that.  Short and long summaries.

    http://www.globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Ima...

    http://www.ipcc.ch/SPM2feb07.pdf

    Science is quite good about exposing bad science or hoaxes:

    http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/ATG/polywater...

    There's a large number of people who agree that it is, who are not liberals, environmentalists, stupid, or conceivably part of a "conspiracy".  Just three examples of many:

    "Global warming is real, now, and it must be addressed."

    Lee Scott, CEO, Wal-Mart

    "Our nation has both an obligation and self-interest in facing head-on the serious environmental, economic and national security threat posed by global warming."

    Senator John McCain, Republican, Arizona

    “DuPont believes that action is warranted, not further debate."

    Charles O. Holliday, Jr., CEO, DuPont

    There's a lot less controversy about this is the real world than there is on Yahoo answers:

    http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/a...

    And vastly less controversy in the scientific community than you might guess from the few skeptics talked about here:

    http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/fu...

    Good website for more info:

    http://www.realclimate.org

    "climate science from climate scientists"

  4. Mankind isn't doing what we are capable of, turning deserts into lush greenlands. If every person in the entire world planted one tree, we would fill the earth with life and not deplete it.

  5. The earth is not a static system; it's climate started changing the day it was created, and it still is. I have no doubt that we are in a warming stage, and I am equally sure we will see another cooling stage in my lifetime. I believe a lot of the current hype by Gore and company is purely political (I won't even get into his, and his Hollywood pal's, hypocrisy on this issue).

    The dire predictions you hear for the future are based on mathematical (i.e. computer) simulations, but our climate is not nearly sufficiently understood to create robust models. Climate-critical variables such as future volcanic activity, sun intensity, etc can not described mathematically.

    Gore's message should be called what it is; a THEORY. However, I find most (but not all) of his data to be irrelevant at best and misleading at worst.

    An old professor of mine said something once that I will never forget. To paraphrase him, science is not based on mathematics or even logic; just the opposite. Science is based on experimentation and unbiased data. From what I have seen, Gore's data does not support his conclusion. In fact, it seems as if the conclusion was reached first, and those facts that didn't support it discarded.

    Oh, and don't let anyone tell you that all scientists agree that global warming is man-made. There are many of us who do not...

  6. yes, the globe is getting warmer. But, it has been warmer - and man wasn't even around during that time period. So, it's a bit egotistical to think that man is causing the warming this time.

  7. there is a lot of evidence of man made climate change .and there are many reasons to hide the truth

    scientists who work for politicians ,get paid by these politicians and they have downplayed the facts because solutions are expensive and means change and change effects many peoples incomes,and upsets profit margins,so most of the world is kept in the dark of the real things that are going on.for political and economic reasons

    Global warming is a very complex collection of many effects

    this text only covers some aspects of global warming ,mainly agriculture i.e.effects of deforestation and subsequent man made desertification

    water and air polution such as caused by

    industrial contamination ,the contaminating effects of the cities(the internal combustion engine) ,are other stories,

    and all of these are also man made ,such as the high industrial chimneys pumping contamination into the clouds and the burning of tires,some of this polution has been found in the ice in the polar regions

    there are natural cycles in the planets life

    but a lot is influenced by mans existance ,and this is increasing with overpopulation,putting strains on Natural resources and increasing contaminations as well as destructions of essential componants the ensure living conditions for all life forms

    climate change is caused in great parts by desertification ,and most desertification is caused by man

    the thinner ozone layer helps to speed this up.and this is caused mainly by air polution ,also as a result of mans actions

    DEFORESTATION

    in the past

    the Building of the Spanish Armada deforrested Spain

    the Phoenician trading fleet turned Lebanon in a dessert

    Ganges Khan put everything to the sword and torch, then filled the wells with sand,

    the sun finished of the job and whole countries turned to wastelands.

    Today ,

    Slash and burn destroys the protective vegetation (which helps to form the soil ),

    leaving it open to the Sun ,and then ,wind and, water erosion.

    The Plough turns the soil ,killing micro-biotic life (essential to soil building) and accelerates the drying out .

    Pressures of the :vehicles, cattle and rain impact brings the salt to the surface.

    Mono cultures ,aided by chemicals Exhaust and pollutes the soil .

    Adding to this the effects of overgrazing has resulted in large scale desertification.

    and there is less and less water (because of deforestation),to irrigate this production ,Farmers

    are overpumping deep carbon aquifiers

    and plowing more and more unstable lands going into the jungles and onto mountain slopes

    expanding populations and expanding farming ,that has to keep pace with the expanding populations are very strong forces that encroach upon the rainforest's

    clearing them for farming and settlement areas .

    Rainforest's always are in third world countries and always in third world countries corruption and the need for money s highest

    in North Africa,India,Mexico ,millions of people are effected by land loss and desertification and some have died as a result

    ,the Sahara is growing by 7 kilometers a year

    and most of the desserts we know are a results of mans actions ,and they are increasing ,not getting less ,in the dinosaurs days ,there were no desserts.

    collectively this planet is drying up ,

    each degree rise in temperature means 10%crop loss

    and there is less and less water (because of deforestation),to irrigate this production ,

    and there are less and less farmers to do it..

    Arable lands and their farms are lost all over the globe. Many farmers sons abandon farming and head for the cities.

    Northern China is drying up, what once were millions of food producing people, are now hungry refugees ,running for their lives from the all consuming dust storms.

    This will have a great effect on world food prices when they start buying at what ever cost, to feed their people.

    Africa and Asia are loosing millions of people to AIDS , many of whom were food producers.

    The farmers that are left have to feed some 70 million more people than the year before but with less topsoil.

    Over the last half century,

    Population growth & rising incomes have tripled world grain demand from 640 million tons to 1,855 million

    In the near future the global farming community will not be able to feed every body ,food prices will continue to rise. .

    RISING SEAS

    The northpole is melting ,and we will know it without ice in our life times.

    this does not affect the sea level because it is ice that is already in the water.but the melting ice from Green land and the south pole ,are another matter

    Global warming could be slowed down to some extent,but it will mean global co operation between all countries ,and taking into account human nature and the world politics ,it is unlikely that this will happen,

    At least not untill we are all in the middle of planetary disastres and it becomes a battle for the survival of humanity every where,instead of just some third world countries Source(s) here are a 100 ways to help

    http://www.eco-gaia.net/forum-pt/index.p...

    http://www.greenpeace.org/international/...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/natur...

  8. A good question, and I applaude your desire for real scientific evidence.  Unfortunatly, if my experience a few months ago is any indication, you are going to remain unsatisfied.  I posed a series of questions on global warming and insisted that answers be backed up with scientific evidence.  For the most part, I received a number of links to various news media sites, ELF sites, political action sites like PEW and Wikipedia.  

    I would suggest that you go and get the actual data and form your own opinion.  You can find a lot at websites run by NOAA, NASA and the Scripts Institute.

  9. I think we should all back up the bus a bit (as Tim Allen would say) take a good hard look at the matter, and face what we've done.  Global warming is a fact.  Now what are we going to do about it?

  10. Among scientists, there is NO question that global warming is a problem.

    http://www.epa.gov/climatechange

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/climatechange

    http://www.hmnh.harvard.edu/  climate change link, lower right

    DVD "An Inconvenient Truth"

    Dr. Hansen of NASA (Bush tried to suppress his findings)

    The oil and coal lobbies want you to believe that it is not happening. Don't believe them.

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