Do Americans really want to do the jobs Illegals do?

Question

I keep hearing "Americans did these jobs", "They will do them if the wages where better". So what's the truth? I don't see them taking back what they say was "Stolen from them". WHY?

What do you think?

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/op-ed/navarrette/20070204-9999-lz1e4navarret.html

"I've heard from employers who say that, when they try to hire Americans, all they get are headaches and demands and complaints and demands and attitude and more demands. Once on the job, the employers say, many of these employees don't want to work; in fact, they spend their energy trying to find creative ways not to work and still get paid. Some quit after only a few weeks on the job – but not before making the employer feel as if they're doing him a favor instead of the other way around. In some cases, even the low-skilled are demanding high salaries because they value their time as much as the high-skilled workers do."

Answer 1

For the employers, it is a win-win situation

That also explains why so many businessmen would rather purchase merchandise made in Taiwan, China, etc,etc, than hire people here to make it

It is a matter of cost-effectiveness

mickey, it is very easy to find the good people because they go everywhere telling people how good they are, so nobody might think that they are not good

Answer 2

when i was a kid i picked vegetables to buy my school clothes every year.  we had fields and i picked in other peoples fields as well.  so yeah there are plenty of Americans that want to do it. and even if their aren't enough now-a-days to do it, that doesn't justify employers breaking the law by hiring illegals to do it.

Answer 3

Have you driven by any construction site in your neighborhood? Are you telling me that there aren't any number of Americans willing to take those job. All the illegals do is drive down the cost of labor.

Answer 4

NO but we want to keep the jobs illegals REALLY WANT

Is this rant trying to get legal Americansd to believe that illegals will want to ALWAYS STAY IN AND KEEP these "entry level" jobs, or will they (as all other members of the human race) want to climb the ladder of sucsess and get better jobs?

Answer 5

Very interesting question .First I would like to say don’t take it offensive.

What many surveys says and even my experience says many americans are quite arrogant ( don't believe me then see the answers to your question ) I had a very interesting chat with (nice)native american .He told me about stereotype in  americans mind  that " many americans think that people from other countries are taking their jobs "   which is completely unjustified . What you said is sadly true   to much extent not completely (take no offence)

                In "oprah winfrey " although I couldn't remember how much but is more than 50% of americans drop high school and it is increasing.

                             Another interesting fact is that the economy of england and usa is so dependent on immigrants that  even if you wipe out immigrants for one day their whole economy will collapse and they immigrants (this didn't include illegal immigrants) do about 4 times more contribution to usa economy  . Even our terminator and governor (Arnold Schwarzenegger) is immigrant . What you said is not stereotype it is sad truth . But don't make it another stereotype that all americans are like this (my american friend is good example of this )

           Another interesting fact my american friend told me is that " we are very clever in taking the topic off beat if we don't get it” so if you are taking about immigration they will take the topic to nuclear plants. (Sometimes stereotypes are quite funny) LOL

"But americans do illegal jobs" I didn't think so .USA has strict laws so I think they didn't want to send rest of their life in jail.This may be stereotype that they do illegal jobs

And to my fellow american friends I won't support illegal immigrants . If some american lost his job because of illegal immigrant I wont support immigrant .I am against everything which has "illegal" word with it

Those who think I am making points by myself can google it . Mind it I didn't say all americans I said some americans.

Answer 6

Because they work harder, don't complain about working longer hours and the ones that I know get paid well and do pay taxes. I have worked in Human Resources and Americans tend to be more demanding whether they are qualified or not.

And actually Americans who demand more benefits and wages are the ones who drive cost up. They want to get paid more than they work. That's why you see alot of companies cutting jobs or giving them to people equally qualified but are willing to get paid less. A job is a job.

Answer 7

What a giggle...  please note the last point.  All the points are referenced by the way, in the web site.  In any case, the answer is the American People already do the work and the illegal aliens keep trying to run the citizens off.  

The Dark Side Of Illegal Immigration

http://www.usillegalaliens.com/the_dark_...

http://www.americanchronicle.com/article...

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigra...

http://www.michnews.com/cgi-bin/artman/e...

http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/sh...

• The violent street gang Mara Salvatrucha 13 (M-13) arrived in our country from San Salvador by way of Mexico… [and] is well-known for targeting and killing law enforcement personnel. In early 2005, there was believed to be 5 to 6,000 M-13 gang members in Washington, DC and adjoining communities in Virginia and Maryland. This is just one area of the United States….[one M-13 member confronted a White American, wanting his trailer and the M-13 member told him] that he liked to harm white men, would burn down his house then fade back into the barrios of Los Angeles or maybe Raleigh’…if he didn’t get his way in obtaining the trailer.

• Bush is totally disregarding the law in pursuit of his personal passions…[wanting] a guest worker program and amnesty for 12-20 million illegal aliens already in the United States…Bush play[ed] to illegal aliens under the guise of courting the vote of the people of Hispanic race…Bush is clearly visible holding and waving the Mexican flag. [Go to Stuter’s article, or hit control and click on this link see the 2004 campaign video] [23].

In this pro-Latino video, Mr. Bush states that there are 40 million Latinos here, and that his administration has the longest list of employed Hispanics. Under these circumstances, do you think Mr. Bush or anyone succeeding him will limit illegal immigration? His father had promised to do it right after he announced to the world for the first time the now famous phrase “New World Order,” but didn’t. And Bill Clinton had promised to do it, too, and didn’t either; so neither will President Dubya’s successor. Let’s face it: As Ralph Epperson so well puts it, there is no two-party election in our country. Both Democrats and Republicans are in the pockets of the Elite” [24].

From the L.A. Times [25]:

• 40% of all workers in the L.A. County (~10 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes…illegal aliens without green cards.

• 95% of warrants for murder in L.A. are for illegal aliens.

• 75% of the people on the most wanted list in L.A. are illegal aliens.

• Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD are illegal.

• 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.

• In L.A. County, 5.1 million people speak English; 3.9 million speak Spanish out of a total of 10.2 million in the country

****• Less than 2% of illegal aliens pick our crops but 29% are on welfare [26].*****

Answer 8

Yes, I have heard the same thing many times myself.  While many americans love to regurgitate falsified statistics or rhetoric (which they might not know) is from racist sites, the truth is that illegal immigrants (esp Mexicans) A: DO pay taxes when their employers pay for them.  B: Are NOT eligible for ANY gov assist or HUD housing in WA state and now have to prove citizenship.  C:  all mexicans illegal and legal have a 96% employment rate, and that pisses us off.

They might in fact drive the cost of labor down, but if they are able to do so, it's b/c they work much harder, longer, and complain less.  If we went to work with the same attitudes we would be just as able to get the jobs as them.  Many many foerigners that I know (esp. Mexicans) not only work 2-3 jobs to support their families, but DONT get welfare of any sort, not even medical coupons.  In truth the LACK of medical coverage for illegals/legal immigrants is a problem.  If they get welfare they automatically get med coupons, so you cant have it both ways.  

It also seems to me that many of those who do pay taxes witch, moan, groan, and complain incessently about having to pay taxes, but then when others dont (at least not as much as they have to) they are all pissed off?  What it really amounts to is that illegals working hard makes americans LOOK BAD on the job, like we are lazy and demanding.  And not paying as much taxes makes us mad since that is pretty much what we WISH we could do.  As long as they dont come here to commit aggravated felonies, I have no prob with them.

FYI, some of the 'stats' that someone posted above are way off, innaccurate.

Answer 9

1. Cut funding for primary education.

2. Allow the price of the best colleges and universities to spiral out of reach with tuition increases that outpace inflation.  Only the wealthy can attend; keeps the riff-raff out!

3. Strap students requiring non-government loans so that they become debtors right out of college.

4. Allow anyone to work in the US, legal or otherwise, diminishing the quality and accessability of wages as the demand for jobs increases.

5. Make more and more 'crimes' and imprison a higher percentage of the population than China or Russia.

6. Make people with records unable to work or find housing.

The result: a slave nation.

Answer 10

America seemed to prosper before illegals started taking over.  So I'm sure we'll figure out a way to adapt and survive.  Truct me, we don't need illegal as much as they are led to believe.

Answer 11

Yes if they are paid a wage determined by a labor market not filled with illegals who will work for less.

Answer 12

As far as I'm concerned, it's not about the jobs they're doing. It's about the fact that they are working "tax-free" in America and then taking advantate of the programs our taxes pay for. I know so many Illegal "aliens" who receive free medical, food stamps, live in low-income housing..all the things created by Americans FOR Americans. They can do those jobs. All I ask is that they pay their taxes like every other hard working American...

Answer 13

Yes actually. I'm doing one of those jobs I supposedly wont do. I have been a housekeeper for many years now.

I worked for a company not too long ago that paid me little more than minimum wage. They praised my work and attitude constantly and our customers requested me at times because of the good job I did. Both the praise from my employer and the job stopped when an illegal came in and worked for much less than minimum wage.

I did take my job back in a way. I now work for myself and I hear that my former employer has lost many of our bigger clients because of the shoddy work performances of what is now an all illegal team.

Eventually greedy businesses trampling on American workers will experience a good dose of karma. What comes around always goes around. We Americans are worth more than the illegals taking jobs because the truth is we give more and we work harder. The real problem is that we are not willing to settle for anything less than what we're worth and legally entitled to.

Answer 14

Illegals work for less which drives wages down. It benefits employers who exploit the needs of these aliens but it is  bad for working class Americans who are entitled to a piece of the American pie.

Answer 15

RE: "the jobs Americans won't do" stuff. It seems that certain economic classes want to increase their fortunes hiring Illegal, cheap slave labor instead of Americans at living wages.

And high school kids can get a job - just like their parents did at that age, and be happy about it. There is no need for them to be sitting around on their proverbial butts.

Those days will be coming back - believe me. It won't be long.

The days of self- aggrandized -"entitlements" are going...going....gone.

Meanwhile, the illegal problem is costing US taxpayers nearly 3 and half billion dollars a year.

Answer 16

It does not matter. Crime should not pay. We should start selling illegal aliens to the South African Diamond mines as indentured servants for an 11 year contract to pay for homeland security. I bet when their contract was up they would think twice about returning.

Answer 17

The truth is that unskilled, uneducated Americans don't have to do these jobs. They make a better living being unemployed and dependent on the government, than they would picking oranges for minimum wage.