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Do Christians care as much about my soul, as say the homeless guy they pass on the way home from work?

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Can "Christian help" exist without an agenda?

We know that Christians convert. This is pretty factual, it is mandated into the Christian Dogma. That is not my question here.

My question is that if Christians are so hellbent on saving the 'soul' of a stranger, say me, a g*y man, for example. That the lifetime of persecution that I have felt, guised in the sense of 'helping'. That this is always for the better good, who's good I question, but none the less.

If this is truly the nature of the Christian, to help all who have lost their way. Do Christians ever think about helping the people who actually need their help. Like that dozens of homeless who line the streets on any city block. Are these people not at a larger risk here.

I mean I may be a g*y man, but I have two university degrees and make a good 5 figures a year. Why am I always the target when people are literally starving to death outside your front door?

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  1. i can't speak for most but i can say God cares about the soul of the homeless person on the street just as much as he cares about your soul, and if God does so do I.. I try to help out when i can for instance if i see a homeless person and i can stop for a second i would buy McDonald's or the like for him...


  2. No...most Christians are very self absorbed.

  3. Many Christians will fervently pray for your soul although a percentage of your income will be required.

    Take a look at what the Mormons are doing in California to make g*y marriage illegal again.  If you tithe, they'll look the other way.

    It's not about God - it's about the money

  4. You are pretty critical of Christians and apparently quite ignorant on the matter.  Where is your degree in Christian theology?

    My spouse and I have such a small income that we don't even pay federal or state taxes.  Yet, I have given money to the church, to distribute Bibles to those who don't have any, to send things to our military overseas, donated clothing to the needy or those affected by unfortunate circumstances.  I have gone to the grocery store and purchased food items for people on the street and usually include a few Bible verses.  Then I tell these people that my only request is that they read and think about the messages included with their food.  A man once came up to me and asked for money to buy food for his friend.  His friend wouldn't approach or talk to anyone else.  I said I would purchase the food for him and we walked to a nearby carry-out.  The man chose the place.  He asked what he could order and I told him anything he wanted.  He chose a 2 for the price of 1 deal that was under $5.00 which included a drink.  I asked him what he would like and he gave me a surprised and strange look, then said "The same".  I placed the order and ordered a drink for myself.  We walked back together and he thanked me just before going to his friend with the food.

    So, how many times have you personally fed the homeless?  I've done it more than once!  I don't necessarily try to convert, but I do try to sew the seed by spreading His word.  Some, I'm sure will be saved, others probably have been saved and unfortunately, there are those who will reject Christ.

    You are pretty full of yourself thinking that YOU are the target; your implication is that you are the only target!  Jesus doesn't want just you to be a part of the family of Christ, He wants everyone to be. Perhaps you flaunt yourself rather than behaving in a dignified manner.  I knew a L*****n who was a delightful person.  She never pushed or advertised her sexual orientation. There was another that I'm still in contact with and it was years before I even knew that she was a L*****n.  We are still friends.  It is not because you fall into any type of class that Christians try to reach out to you for your salvation, it's because of your sin.  Yes, I know Christians sin, but the difference is we try to avoid it, ask forgiveness and try to avoid it in the future.  We are forgiven.  Christians want you to be forgiven of your sins, too.

    There may be some, even many, who try to "convert", but those that I know just try and teach the word of God and Christ.

  5. I do it every day, dude.

    Guess what?  Not all of us go around trying to "save souls."  Some of us actually LIVE as Christ taught and let actions speak louder than words.

    Why are you making such sweeping generalizations?  I'd think that with your degrees, you'd know better than to stereotype.

    Oh, I DID answer the question.  You just don't like the answer.  I help needy children every day.

    Stop whining.

    You are not ALWAYS a target.

  6. And not all Christians are like the ones that you just described.  You are who you are, there is no changing that.  All that matters is that you live your life as well as you possibly can.  Being as good of a person that you can be.  It's their problem that they can't accept that.

  7. yes....but a person can only help so much when anther person is resisting you .........................

  8. Yes.


  9. A Christian don't convert someone. Where do you get that from? Christians are suppose to be an example

  10. Sorry but you are an example that university degrees and 5 figure salary are not sufficient to instill good moral values.

    There are Christian charities everywhere. Maybe you could contact one of them about the homeless.

  11. You're a target because of their belief in that ancient goat herder text.  

  12. Christians disapprove of using their money to help the poor.  I see them say that here day after day.  They won't get healthcare for children because it might mean they would have to pay for it.  Evidently they prefer to see their money going to a war in Iraq.

    You are a better target because of your income.  They are hoping to see your tithe in the collection plate.

  13. But what should a man gain if he gains the whole world but loses his soul.And by the way do you help those who are in need with all that money you make.

  14. MOST people dont like homosexuals.Thats just the way it is !  

  15. Christians would rather judge people than help them.

  16. Christians cannot convert anyone.  They can tell you about Jesus, and what accepting him means in a persons life.  It is then up to that individual to seek the out the truth in what they have been told.  It is Jesus who converts.  

    The church I go to does help the homeless.  We are a country church, but members use their vacations to help in inner city areas.  They in fact would get more help that someone in your own position who, being educated and obviously aware of what the Christian faith stands for, has chosen by your own volition to reject it.  

    The door is always open for you to change your mind.  But as I have already said, you know enough about Christianity not to need people to tell you about it any longer.  If you ever decide to, go directly to the author of salvation, not one of His Followers.

  17. I have known and helped some homeless people.  But this doesn't mean I can ignore the Bible and say what you are doing is fine.

    We are good multi-taskers.

  18. Being EX-g*y is a myth!  There is no such thing.

    As for the poor.  I find it interesting that although there are over 1000 references in the Bible to the poor, there is so littel said on this forum about it.

    The condemnation of homosexuality and homosexuals on this forum has little to do with true Christian principles of love and compassion.  

    It is mostly rooted in the mean-spiritedness and bigotry of people trying to convnce themselves that they are "saved."

    They profess to care about their "souls" but they rarely seem to care about their wellfare.

    It seems that priorities are entirely skewed.  They would rather give money to Dobson and the like to help fuel their hate compaigns against the g**s of this country rather than to help the actual poor.  People seem to praise Bush for his trillions of national debt engaging in an immoral war of aggression, but to use this money instead in this counfry?  No way.  They praise him when he vetoed the bill which wanted to give the barest fraction of this amount of monay to give health care to the underprivleged poor children of our country.  Why?

  19. It was the Christians who ran all the soup kitchens for the homeless and poor in the city where I grew-up, and they never asked for a d**n thing in return from anyone- the citizens of the city, the mayor's office, or the government.

    They shouldered the financial costs entirely themselves, and would not give interviews to the press when they came around. They did encourage people in the churches to donate food, clothing, and blankets though.

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