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Do Jewish people believe that the following scriptures refer to the origin of Satan, or Earthy leaders who...?

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.........opposed the Nation of Israel?

Isaiah 14:12

Isaiah 14:7-16

Ezekiel 26:21

Ezekiel 28:13-19

I know what Christians believe. I know what Christians teach. I'm not asking about that.

I'm specifically asking for the JEWISH perspective.

Thank you.

If you don't respect that request, I will make fun of your reading skills.

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  1. Isa 14

    http://en.allexperts.com/q/Orthodox-Juda...

    All I could find out about Eze 28 was that it seems to be talking about the king ot Tyre.

    Edit: the link page seems to be formatted poorly but if you scroll down there is an answer.  It seems the answer is Nebuchadnezzar.

    I can't elaborate on any of it because I'm not an expert.  You should just be aware that Jews consider Satan to be an obedient angel.  Any verse you find that contradicts that must be talking about someone else and you can be pretty sure the rabbis are sure about it.  I'm sure they've heard every argument you could think of.

    If you really want to delve into it, you should find a rabbi to discuss it with.


  2. jews believe in the Old Testament only  

  3. According to Judaism, Satan (actually ha-satan, the accuser) is not a big deal - he's just another angel who essentially works as G-d's prosecuting attorney. He is not considered evil, or a fallen angel, or anything like that - according to Judaism, angels do not have free will.  So they are incapable of opposing G-d or "falling" or doing anything not in accordance with his wishes.  

    So no, those passages are all about human leaders who oppose the nation of Israel.  

  4. None of them refer to Satan in the way Christianity does.  In Judaism Satan (the literal meaning of Satan is Accuser)  is merely the angel assigned to putting your deeds before God when you are judged.

    Isaiah 14:12

    12. How have you fallen from heaven, the morning star? You have been cut down to earth, You who cast lots on nations.

    The morning star here is an allusion to Nebuchadnezzer who saw himself as supreme and akin to the Gods.  The casting of lots refers to his practice of casting lots amongst the Kings he had conquered and held captive to see who would serve him on any particular day.

    Similarly 14:7-16 refers to earthly kings and their downfall.

    Ezekiel 26:21

    21. I shall make you a nonentity, and you will be sought, but you will never again be found," says the Lord God

    This refers to the fact that the enemies of Jews will ultimately fail and be destroyed.  There cities will be forgotten and become as nothing.

    Ezekiel 28:13-19

    Here the prophet is referring to Adam and his wonderings in the Garden.  He alludes to the greatness of Adam prior to his sin, and how he created pure with no imperfections- but sinned and led humanity into the world as we know it.

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