Do animal rights activists and vegans tend to be pro-life?

Question

I support animal rights, and I'm also against abortion, especially partial birth abortion. In cases of rape and/or incest, a D&C can be done immediately afterwards. The pain and suffering inflicted onto helpless animals must stop, and the painful deaths inflicted onto human fetuses also must stop. Few can deny that many human fetuses feel pain when their skulls are punctured in preparation for the suction instrument that removes their brains. Do most animal rights activists and vegans tend to be pro-life? It would definitely make logical sense.

Answer 1

As you see, vegans and AR activists aren't all of of one mind; as on any other issue they have diverse views.

I'm vegan and I'm very much pro-choice.

In countries where abortion is illegal, women have abortions anyway - dangerous, life threatening and sometimes fatal abortions. This used to happen in countries where abortion is legal, and still does where it is legal but in reality hard to get.

It is women without the money to buy safe abortions - something wealthy women have always been able to do, legal abortion or no - who died and continue to die. I care about their lives so I'm pro-choice.

I'm old enough to remember the time before abortion was legal in my country. I remember the whispers about a friend's teenage cousin who died following a botched illegal abortion, and friends par boiling themselves in hot baths to try to induce abortion. Stories of knitting needles, coat hangers etc aren't just horror stories, they happened and continue to happen. I think it's ironic that those claiming to be 'pro-life' usually have no thought or care for the lives of women and girls who die in this way

I am strongly in favour women being in control of their own lives and destinies, and part of this is control over their own fertility. With the best will in the world contraception sometimes fails.

I'm vegan because I choose to minimise my contribution to animal suffering. I'm pro-choice because I value the lives of women and their right to choose - whatever the circumstances of conception.

Keep it legal, keep it safe.

**BTW - ''when their skulls are punctured in preparation for the suction instrument that removes their brains'' - you really have been lapping up some of the more lurid and imaginative propoganda from the anti-choice lobby, some sections of which are notoriously lax with the truth. Take the alledged link between abortion and breast cancer - scientifically disproven, but the anti-choice lobby still repeats and publicises it as though it were true

Answer 2

Strangely enough, it seems that most of them on here who've answered questions like this (at least that I've seen) are not pro-life. I agree with you, though, that it would be logical.

To the answerer above who asked which country allowed the suction thing, that is how most abortions are performed. The baby is basically vacuumed out bit by bit. It really is revolting.

Answer 3

I cannot speak for all of us, but I am a vegan and I am very much pro-life. I cannot say that my dietary lifestyle is the reason that I ascribe to this point of view, though.

I'm Catholic and I've always been pro-life. Becoming vegan just reinforced my stance and my belief that ALL life is sacred.

+in Him+,

HR

Answer 4

I'm a vegetarian and an animal rights activist, I am pro choice because what if i ever had to make that choice and what if abortion was the only option for me?  I am not one to judge people must do what they feel necessary.

Answer 5

Ironically, no.

Most are very liberal, supporting the pro-choice (I'm still not sure what "choice" the baby has) agenda to the end.

Answer 6

yes, i am pro-life and i am a vegan and an animal activist. To me, the value of human and animal life is equal, so killing animals at a slaughterhouse and unborn babies in a hospital are related. There is a lot of debate on whether or not the fetuses feel pain, well they probably can like you said, but the point is it is a life that has started and ethically should not be stopped. Especially with so many safe adoption programs out there today, its still her choice whether she wants to keep the baby or not keep the baby, its just less destructive. Rape victims, i wish would consider adoption. In the end humans are animals, so we need protection laws keeping us alive (or those who would become alive) too. just my opinion, though.

Answer 7

Animal rights activist and vegans probably cover the political spectrum, though I would imagine a tendency to the left. The thing is the debate is flawed, we have pro-life vs pro-choice. Pro-lifers would not define themselves as anti-choice and the pro-choicers would not define themselves as anti-life. The two teams are playing different games.

Answer 8

no, not neccessarily.  i'm pro choice. i believe we need to speak for animals and not abuse them and exploit them because they don't have a choice.  they need someone to speak for them.  a fetus has it's mother and she should be making the choice.  not religious people and politicians.  the family and the doctor should make that choice.  i don't believe a fetus, in the early stages (i'm not talking  about months along...) can feel pain ... in fact very early on a fly has more cells and feelings than a fetus and we kill them willingly and often.... plus what about the life that the fetus will have if it grows into a baby?  how many say "put it up for adoption" and how many actually go out and adopt??????  what about kids that end up in the foster care system miserable and abused their whole life?  i don't think that's the answer.  how many embryos are spontaneously aborted by the body on it's own?  it happens.... i dont' think abortion is a "walk in the park" that people do carelessly and without thinking about it... it's a big deal and only done where the mother and doctor and family think it's the best idea... and it should be left to them to decide that.

Answer 9

If you use terms such as "pro-life", you aren't using any logic at all.

"Pro-life" is an even bigger fallacy than "no-kill".

Answer 10

I am a vegetarian and am totally pro-CHOICE. Pro-Life people have the weakest, stupidest arguments I have ever heard. They care more about some non-feeling fetus than they do a woman who already has feelings and emotions and a LIFE?

Answer 11

I think the decision a woman makes about her own body is her own choice and noone has the right to judge, since only she understands her own circumstances.

I must be naïve though because I dont understand the "painful deaths inflicted onto human fetuses" and "uman fetuses feel pain when their skulls are punctured in preparation for the suction instrument that removes their brains".  That is the most disgusting thing I have ever heard. Which country allows that????

Answer 12

I'm vegan and support animal rights, and I am pro-life. Even before I was vegan or supported animal rights as much as I do now I was pro-life, because of religious reasons, which may have something to do with it. I don't know how others feel about it, but yes it would make logical sense.

Answer 13

"do you know how many babies that could have found a cure for cancer? the common cold?"

Or, do you know how many babies could turn out to be serial killers, wife beaters, animal abusers, criminals, ect. That logic works both ways you know....

Answer 14

As someone else said veges tend to be liberal and liberals tend to be pro-choice so I would think that veges tend to be pro choice more than those like myself.

Answer 15

I'm vegan and pro-life.

I believe that no matter of the circumstances, innocent fetuses should not be harmed.

In my opinion, it's just as bad as killing any other born human being - they still feel pain and have to suffer!

Answer 16

I am pro-choice, lacto-ovo vegan, and for animal rights.

Being vegan is my choice, supporting animal rights is my choice, and regulating my body is, once again, my choice.

Are you for or against the death penalty? Most right wing conservatives are pro-life and pro-death. Explain that one to me.

P.S. Do you know how many rapes go unreported in the U.S. alone? Ever wondered how many women end up pregnant from being raped by supposed friends? Have you ever considered that the lonely girl wandering into planned parenthood with her mom finally worked up the courage to say, "Uncle Billy stays in my room at night"? Do you also believe in the feelings of the labia majora and female genital mutilation? I assume that since you are worried about the feelings of developing tissue, then you must be pro slice and dice. After all, a woman doesn't have the choice, correct?

Please don't assume that all women partake in casual abortions in order to push aside responsibility. Economic factors, age, and health all play an important role. My sister HAD to have an abortion in her 5th month because the baby was causing her to hemorrhage and bleed internally. Too bad she didn't die for the baby. What about ectopic pregnancies gone awry? Ugh. Read and learn.

Answer 17

i know 2 of them

one is very pro life

the other one is very pro choice-

she also doesnt believe in eating eggs cause it is wrong to hurt baby chickens

which is why i'm neither a vegetarian or pro-choice

Answer 18

When a baby is born that is unwanted it is often not given up for adoption.  Rather, it is kept in an unloving family and abuse may take place.  

Abortions will happen whether it's legal or not.  But when it is illegal, you will find that not only fetuses are killed but sometimes the expectant mother.  When women don't have the option to abort, they will turn to other methods, such as having someone kick them in the stomach, hangers, needles, hot baths, throwing themselves down the stairs, and other traumas.  When a woman takes it upon herself to abort her fetus, the risks to her are enormous because of a lack of sterile environment.  She may get fatal infections if she were to abort herself or have some unqualified person to do it for her.

Also, you have to define life and sentience.  Is a fetus a living being? When exactly does a fetus start to act out of instinct?  When can they feel pain and do they recognize it?

I have no qualms about someone aborting a fetal human just the same as I have no reason to think it's wrong for a tasmanian devil to eat her young.

I am vegan and pro-choice if you haven't yet realized.  An adult woman's well-being will always trump a fetus' well-being in my opinion.

Answer 19

I am a vegan and I support the rights of animals but people have different ideas of what cruelty is.I think euthanizing animals is necessary sometimes when an animal has been abused and is in severe pain that can't be cured.I do believe that many animals are euthanized unnecessarily but there are cases when it should be atleast considered.Some people are totally against that and think its cruel but it has to be handled on a case by case basis.Just to clarify I believe that most animals can be rehabilitated and that many are not given a chance.

I think its possible that some children would suffer more with the wrong people as their parents than they would thru the pain of an abortion.Its hard to meausre which is the wosre scenario and I'm not saying which is worse.I'm against pain and suffering for any child.

Answer 20

I don't know, I think you should ask them.

If you are trying to apply logic and politics, good luck with that.

For instance, I am pro life, I think the baby sort of has a stake in the matter too.

But I eat meat. I do not want animals suffering needlessly but I know where my meals come from and I am not naive enough to think the meat comes pre-packaged in a neat little styrofoam package.

Answer 21

amen

it is wrong to take an innocent life, it is barbaric. you would think humans would be above that. somehow its legal, and somehow we must stop it

it makes perfect sense

it is sickening. do you know how many babies that could have found a cure for cancer? the common cold?

and as for animals, people will always eat meat, they are too hardheaded not to. they can at least give them some pain meds!

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how could you stand up for the rights of an animal and be for killing innocent children!?