Do anyGW-deniers care if the Bees&Polar Bears dieoff &become extinct due to climate changes & habitat changes?

Question

Al Gore not part of Q. To bring him up out of context indicates intellectual iferiority!

Answer 1

um...  did you just say "scientific extrapolation"?  Extrapolation isn't science.  No one can predict whether or not the ice will be there.  It will always be there for the winter.

Bee's aren't dying because of a 0.6*C increase in average temperature.  If this was the case, then it would happen in local areas, in stages, wherever the warmer than average temperatures happened.  

You show evidence that polar bears are dying, and that numbers are declining.  I want to see hard evidence of noticeable decline in polar bear population, or dead polar bears that weren't killed by Inuit.

And Biologists estimate that polar bears evolved from grizzly bears within the last 200,000 years anyways.. Nature could replace them eventually anyways.  Bee's will not go extinct either, I haven't noticed a reduction in bee's, not at all, and I am an outdoors men.

Answer 2

As far as I am concerned it is a myth. In 1974 I worked as a lab assistant for a Chemistry Professor who helped start all this stuff. Three universities MIT, NMSU, and Cal Poly Pomona were involved. They applied for a Grant to study the Ozone layer. The grant was not enough to do more than build the Instrument package but not fly it. So they did environmental chamber simulation experiments, and the results were if you have the exact combination of ozone, Freon(from hair spray and spray underarm deodorant), and lighting causes the Ozone and Freon to chemically combine. They publicized this widely to get a lot more money and started the environmental movement. They lied bald faced because they said this was what happening to the ozone layer. They did nothing with the first grant that was real with ozone. Environmentalist was all a freaking lie. Now it is the second biggest religion in the USA. You can believe what you will but I saw it all start.

from a previous post

Answer 3

go up to the north you will see a lot of them

Answer 4

Bees need flowers, for pollen and nectar...and a warmer climate would bring lots more flowers over longer growing seasons as more old surface is exposed.  Should be good for bees.

The current problem appears to be a virus, not Global Warming, from what I read.  I have not seen anywhere where global warming kills bees...I guess I do not read the right terror/scare data!

And again, if global warming kills off bees, how did crops get pollinated during the MWP??  Manuscripts I seem to recall from that time speak of people eating honeycombs found in various places...dunno if bees were domesticated then...not ever checked that out.

I have asked the question before, to GW people, and nobody will answer.  We had much warmer weather longer in the last couple-3 global warming episodes, the MWP, etc.  

Greenland was forested.  the Polar bears either survived well, or evolution was exceedingly quick to mutate other bears and make new Polar bears in a couple thousand years, or less!

It is possible man may wipe them out as predators, like the grizzlies almost were, when they move to land and start eating people and domestic animals.  Man intruded on Grizzly range, and the grizzlies ate animals and people.

I understand Polar Bears are fond of the taste of humans;  maybe the Goreans will form human lines to protect them and offer them a treat now and then?

But read history...Grizzlies were eventually protected and making a comeback.  Polar bears have done it before I am sure, and will do it again.  Goreans will sacrifice fame, fortune, and I am sure themselves to help the Polar bears survive on land where they have in previous warm cycles without benevolent human help.

.Maybe the Gorean Fanatics will go up there, and be eaten, and two problems taken care of at once!!

I do not think the issue is "don't care", the issue is that we have been through a great many such warm periods, with humans around, and the Polar Bears, and other such animals, are still around and doing well.

What is unique about this one time that will cause them to all die without man suffering to keep them alive?  

Can ANY Gorean fanatic explain in lucid and valid detail why this one time the Bears and the Bees will die out unless Man stops the global warming dead in its tracks right now at all costs...to everybody except the folks like Gore who will continue to make loads of money off their stealth businesses and the populace in general?

Which historically by the way is very bad for humanity!!  

Humanity prospers in times of global warming, and runs into bad problems, historically, in times of Global Cooling.  Check History...it does not bite!!

Answer 5

Polar bear populations are fine, GW may one day in history become to be known as one of the greatest frauds ever conceived of.

Answer 6

What you are interested in in not science, but anything that sounds like science and supports your ideas.  They are definately not the same thing.

Answer 7

Polar bears are alive and well in the San Diego zoo, that is a lot warmer than the arctic.

It has been hotter in the near past and the polar bears and bees didn't die off.

What makes you so sure they are going to die off in this cycle?

Generally speaking, even when mankind makes a concerted effort to wipe out a particular species, we usually don't succeed.  Even smallpox is still hanging around in a few laboratories.

Answer 8

Polar bear population is five times larger than it was fifty years ago.

Bee disappearances are disturbing but the folks working on it haven't cited global warming as a cause.

Answer 9

Who says Polar bears are dying off?  Al Gore?  You trust a politician?

Polar bear die-off unlikely: GN official

Fears that two-thirds of the world's polar bears will die off in the next 50 years are overblown, says Mitchell ­Taylor, the Government of Nunavut's director of wildlife research.

"I think it's naïve and presumptuous," Taylor said of the report, released by U.S. Geological Survey on Friday, which warns that many of the world's polar bears will die as sea ice vanishes due to a warming climate.

"As the sea ice goes, so go the polar bears," said Steve Amstrup, who led the study.

But Taylor says that's not the case. He points to Davis Strait, one of the southern-most roaming grounds of polar bears. According to the USGS, Davis Strait ought to be among the first places where polar bears will starve due to shrinking seasonal sea ice, which scientists say will deprive the bears of a vital platform to hunt seals.

Yet "Davis Strait is crawling with polar bears," Taylor said. "It's not safe to camp there. They're fat. The mothers have cubs. The cubs are in good shape."

http://www.nunatsiaq.com/archives/2007/7...

The territory's polar bear population is doing fine, he said.

"There's a lot of uninformed people and these people feed on the ignorances of these people and force governments to make … policies that are very reactive or very hard on the people of Nunavut," Netser said.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/north/story/200...

There are believed to be at least 22,000 polar bears worldwide [...] The general status of polar bears is currently stable...

World Wild life fund.

http://www.panda.org/about_wwf/what_we_d...

Edit:  I mentioned Al Gore because he is the only person I know who says polar bear populations are in decline.

Answer 10

The asker must be referring to the horrendous environmental record of the old Soviet Union and China .. and Brazil, Chile, South Africa, India, ... pretty much the rest of the world is burning through their resources at a phenomenal rate - and killing off their native species on a daily basis.

I have no idea what those nations will do to curb their insatiable appetite for destruction. Since so many of them are not democratic societies with a free press and a population that is willing and able to share freely in ideas...

ah, well ... it's all wasted on those who will not see...

Answer 11

You have got to get a grip and calm down.

Global warming & cooling has happened for billions of years and will continue to happen until our planet core finally completely cools and the planet dies.

There is nothing man can do to stop this cycle or even do much to affect it in any significant way.

You should focus on being as productive as you can and helping our economy & innovation grow so we are able to rise to any challenge mother nature may throw our way.

Short of this and you are simply wasting your time & energy.

China and India are not going to stop growing and expanding because you think some bees might die.  If you want to help the bees than help your country & economy grow so that we can invent new technologies to help as many species (including ourselves) in the future.

I hope you feel a little better now.

Answer 12

Don't they f**t? It's got to be their own darn fault.

Answer 13

They had to adapt to become Polar bears I guess they'll get over this too. Anything beats chewing on bamboo all day like the Panda.