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Do phone messages from deaseased ones count as evps?

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I am not sure I understand the whole EVP thing. Can it only be something you didn't hear the first time to count as an evp? I received a message on my phone from my grandfather yesterday, who died recently. Does that count as an evp?

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  1. A phone is an electronic device,there was a voice.A message from the dead certainly qualifies as phenomena.So If it did occur(I don't believe it did) it would qualify.


  2. It probably counts as either a bad prank or an honest mistake. How do you know it was your grandfather? Could it have been another elderly gentleman misdialing the phone? Maybe some random goober? That happens quite a bit, actually. Did the voice say something specific to you of value or just ramble on drunk? It seems to me that if your grandfather made the effort to place a phone call from "the other side", he would have thought of something meaningful to tell you. Talk about a long distance charge!

    EVP usually refers to recordings. According to the myth, for some unknown reason, ghost voices can be recorded electronically but can't be heard directly (makes me wonder who the ghosts were talking to before mankind invented recording devices!). If you didn't record it and you heard it directly, it's not really an EVP. But if it's on your voicemail, then it miqht qualify as an EVP.  But if it is on your voicemail, then how sure are you that the voicemail is recent and is not an unerased message from your grandfather when he was alive?

    By the way, I love the explanation from another answer that with EVPs, "the spirit impresses the information directly on the tape or recording device (so the voice box and fingers are not needed to explain this)." I wonder how he knows this? And doesn't that beg the question of why microphones are used at all, if the spirit apparently bypasses the microphone anyway and "impresses" his info right on the tape? Isn't then the microphone only a source of noise and not signal? Noise that can be misinterpreted as words through pareidolia?  Hmmm.......

  3. We have had 2 phone calls from my father ... I do not know if I would classify them as evp, more just a gift.  On the one his name was on the caller id ... written in his handwriting ... my child got scared and hung up on him, saying "You can't call me, you're dead."  lol

    I would no so much try to label something like that, I would just enjoy it ... for it truly is a gift to you from your grandfather.

  4. Yes,You are blessed to get a phone call from your grandpa.

    (Many blessings)

  5. Yes.  A cell phone message probably is recorded digitally so this is an electronic device. An answering machine that used tape or digital technology to record messages would also count.

    EVP stands for Electronic Voice Phenomena which is usually said to work this way. One asks questions to ghosts or the deceased while the recording is running and later you play back the tape to see if you have an answer to any of your questions. The idea being that the spirit impresses the information directly on the tape or recording device (so the voice box and fingers are not needed to explain this).

    I have listed a book on this subject for you below as well as a link to the American Association of Electronic Voice Phenomena

  6. My nana had a story that after one of her friend's died she talked to them on the telephone. Idk if I believe it.

  7. First of all, I am sorry to hear your grandfather has passed away.  You probably miss him and would like to hear from him.  This desire to hear from him can have an impact on how you interpret something like the message you heard.  By wanting to hear from him you can influence your senses into hearing him even if it wasn't him.  I'm not saying it definitely wasn't, but you should consider a few things before reaching a conclusion:

    First, what did the caller say?  Would your grandfather call in the guise of a telemarketer?  Probably not.  If your grandfather called you after he died he would probably say something personal and specific to you.

    Second, how did your grandfather place his call?  Presumably if he is deceased he would be unable to operate a phone as we know it.

    Third, do you have caller ID?

    It seems as if you came here and you want people to simply tell you that yes, your grandfather called you.  If that's what it takes to make you feel better then feel free to believe it.

  8. The message was most likely delayed, it happens all the time with cell phones.

    An evp is a disembodied voice that is caught on a recorder. At the time of the recording it will be inaudible to the human ear. Only when it is played back will the voice be detected.

  9. Telephone microphones and other recording devices are built to record in the audible range (that being of humans) sorry, but if the human ear does not perceive it neither can a spiritual entity.

    Even God works within the framework he set up. Ghosts are no exception.

  10. The only way to know would be to try a voice-print analysis. If you have a recording of your grand's voice, have it compared against the voice-mail. Also, check with your provider for the source for the voice-mail in question. Take things from there. I am not going to tell you it isn't one, but I AM going to tell you to exhaust all other possibilities before accrediting it as a call from your Grandfather.

  11. One must be very careful with these voices-

    - some people can  imitate/also with computer technik- also from distance  etc. /voices  and with dishohest purposes to manipulate you

    - this could also be a mascued demon or a witch /some of the remaining on Earth energies   learned perhaps to use the technik /also to imitate voices for contacting and parasiting

    I would give you advice to bear in mind the first case- this includes also the second.

  12. yes it could be him I heard evps like that left on answering machines & even texts from the beyond on the montel show when he has psychic sylvia browne on

  13. its possible. if EVPs can be recorded on a digital recorder, why not an answering machine? but before you decide, make sure no one you know was doing an prank on you doing a good job of mimicking your GF

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