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Do some folk desire being told what to do? In politics etc, are some people needing others to guide them?

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For what reason?

If you decided to group with a particular kind, what rules would they have to state before you melted towards them?

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  1. Some people need a structured environment in order to feel safe or comfortable enough to function effectively. These people depend on the structure of rules, dress, social etiquette, etc. They also depend on the social rank of those above them for guidance when the structure doesn't dictate an action. When such people rise to a leadership role, they rigidly adhere to the structure on which they have always depended. Many such people are found in government bureaucracies, religious organisations, militaries, etc.


  2. Not just some...but most...want to be shown the way.

  3. We all rely on experts in their field to guide us.  We may or may not respond to the guidance offered, and we may select other experts that are more appropriate to our needs.  This is true for Doctors, Lawyers, teachers, etc.  For governmental leadership, we choose our experts through political process.

    Most groups, good our bad, do not have their stated cause as their primary goal.  The primary goal of most groups is perpetuation of the group.  For example, your employer's main goal is not to make widgets or provide a service, it's main goal is to make money so it can continue to exist.

    The groups I choose to associate with need to have a reasonable and healthy balance between the cause for which their formed, and the need for perpetuation.  I live in the US, and so far, most political parties fail that test, as do most churches, employers, and home-owners associations.

  4. It's an age old problem.

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    Humans are taught 'what to think' instead of 'how to think'!

    This is a problem that must be addressed shortly, and I believe we all know why.

  5. The fact is that we like to lead our life, follow our own initiatives, make our own decisions, have our dreams realised and keep our preference in check.

    The fact is that we do not like to be told as what to do, to take orders from others, or follow instructions. If there is no need for us to listen to others, we would not.

    The fact is that we could go to great lengths to secure our right of autonomy in life. But these are the fact valid only until we can be all by ourselves. But once we are in a collective of people the facts change, as we naturally feel that a leadership of some sort should emerge to lead us from chaos to order.

    This is most important for us that we have clarity of thought, maturity of opinion, and accuracy in our ideas and resolves. When we cannot form an opinion we listen to others, when we cannot see a way we ask, and when we feel we need to know better we come to learn from others.

    Then this is also in our nature that we like to benefit from other people’s abilities: the ability to see farther into things, as ability to foresee danger and opportunities, ability to comprehend present situations better, ability to progress and develop, to count a few.

    Then by nature we seek comfort and ease in doing all things. We look out for ready made templates and formats, of religion, politics and work for instance. If for example we can see that we can find some specialist, a teacher, to teach our children ourselves then instead of taking up the responsibility ourselves at the end of a busy day at office, we would delegate the lead of the task to that person.

    We learn to depend upon people who we see fit to lead along various aspects of our multifaceted lives. We build bonds of respect, love and admiration with politicians and religious leaders for instance, and thereby fulfil another of our very important needs, the need to have a guardian figure to watch over us, to take care of our affairs and to protect us from harm, as though we were still children.

  6. (religious) conservatives and liberals, the alpha males and the pack.

    One group care that others do what they think is right, the other group care about being free to do what they think is right themslves.

    But such discriminations are only an approximation to the truth.  Conservatives are liberal when it comes to their freedom to have their own views, liberals are conservative when it comes to freedom in general.

    The Left stands in opposition to the Right, yet often the lefties are socialist (authoritarian communism) and the right favour liberty, laissez faire capitalism.

    So we are all a bit of both, swinging one way or the other depending on circumstances.

  7. I think they do that for their own advantage.

  8. Feminists in the U.S. are more concerned about fundamentalist Christians taking away their right to abort babies than they are the outrageous "honor killing" of Islamic women by their own fathers.

    Americans must understand that this crime is the direct result of political correctness and a failure to confront the ugly realities of Islam and nobody is even facing the problem.

  9. People don't so much like being told what to do, they just like to live in an environment which is controlled in a way that corresponds with their own wishes.

    I suppose it's more that they want other people to do what they think is right.

    I have leanings towards materialism and minarchism. It wouldn't be a fun club to attend. Every conversation would start "The government has forgotten it's place!" and finish "not that it matters".....

  10. yes I think so - I think for some people  social standing  trumps everything - there is status and a sense of belonging; in where you decide to put your history. I have never understood people saying that they would never cross a picket line.

    Not even if it were racist or otherwise offensive?

    I would melt towards any group that was directly working towards equality freedom compassion and trying to put people first.

    I would like them to state that they didn't know the answers and that the  system that they were caught up in was a minefield - That it was all experiment to see what worked and what didn't because no-one can run a country fairly given the present system. That they would always be real and tell the truth and to wake ourselves up to the idea that we live in real imperfect life rather than a story and we are all in it together, there is no magic - If we want a better society its down to us to be better citizens.

  11. We already do group with a particular kind. Each of us group with like minded people. Yes some folks desire being told what to do, but then again. Some don't. ;-) And everyone needs guidance now and then.

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