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Do some women need to feel like victims and to believe that men want them weak and stupid?

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Do some women need to feel like victims and to believe that men want them weak and stupid in order to justify lack of intimacy in their lives?

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  1. Yes, some women play up to the "victim" mentality. But it's not universal, nor is it exclusive to the female gender.


  2. Its an interesting point and to flying horses question I noted that there are two types of feminists

    1) wants to create understanding

    2) wants to continually perpetuate dissent (those with victimisation complexes)

    It's like the artist who sculpts a masterpiece, it take him months to do in the same way it take months for the reasonable feminists to create understanding, but then some fool with a hammer comes along and destroys it in a heartbeat. That previous poster seemed to be the latter, try to move past it.

    edit: I amend that first point, two types of people. It applies to everyone like lotus said

    Btw lotus you're definately not the same at all as those with victimisation complexes, you actually were a victim right

  3. Well, according to Rush Limbaugh, men do prefer women who are "dumb."

  4. I think wanting to be the victim is a personality trait that occurs in both genders equally.  

  5. everybody, men and women, shoud be equal..  

  6. Yes, I do believe so.

  7. Only a messed up person perhaps. A sane person no.

  8. I suppose some women do, but I do not find that to be generally true with the women I know.  Some women do have a need to feel the victim I think, but the reasons are much more complex than you have given.  Some of them are victims.

  9. Don't you think it's a little immature to boil the argument down to s*x, or a lack thereof? Well, on the other hand, YOU probably don't . . .

    The poster clearly stated that SOME men do this. You can't deny that it happens once in a while.

  10. I agree with Master B, but not with the original question. It plays on the stale hoary stereotype that feminists are lesbians and lack loving connections to men. It's a hammer, not the chisels of the sculptor.

    Concerning my own feminist evolution, I did go through a very angry stage. I was angry at men in general because of the heinous things certain men did to me and to people I love. It was necessary for me to express my anger in order to move from being the victim to having control over my life. My sense of myself as a victim predated and overlapped with my anger, but once I moved into my own power long enough the anger subsided. Now I am only angry on occasions when specific things are being done that reiterate the early trauma (rape/murder/molestation of myself and several loved ones).

    When we have been victimized, anger is a natural and healthy reaction. The trick is to move through anger, to use it as a tool to change the self and the world. Wallowing in it perpetually is destructive.

    Most men to not want to hurt women. At least not their entire lives. Unfortunately we are wounded usually in our childhood or early in our adult lives and that makes us destructive to others. I rarely see mature adult men who need to make women feel badly, but often this is a pattern in young males. The same pattern seems to hold for females.

    Unfortunately, Master B is right, it is easier but far less noble and meaningful, to smash what you, yourself, believe you cannot contribute to, than to actively create something worth working for.

    By the way, the condescension in your question is a prime example of one way in which men make themselves feel better by putting women down.

    Put down the hammer.

    Learn to create.

    You are capable of it.

  11. i dont think so idk i really wouldnt know because ive never experienced it.

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