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Do the oil states of the world want a water powered engine yet?

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  1. ray

    governments can only do so much. I Don't necessarily believe that the states are withholding anything, don't get me wrong I’m one for conspiracy theories, in fact I live 100% off the grid away from society to prove it. But the technology is out there and has been for a longtime. I just think society isn't ready for it yet, almost but not yet. I don't think the government killed the EV either (though I’ve been wrong before) I think consumers did.

    Back in the 80's-90's Honda and Chrysler tried implementing hybrid cars to the market without success (consumer wanted no part of it). Since then the market, technology and human factor has changed allowing them to go back to old blueprints. In the last few years Honda alone has introduces some half dozen hybrids to the market

    Anyway back to hydrogen, Honda has just released their first Hydrogen car (FCX Clarity).

    http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clarity...

    "The FCX Clarity is a next-generation, zero-emissions, hydrogen-powered fuel cell vehicle based on the entirely-new Honda V Flow fuel cell platform, and powered by the highly compact, efficient and powerful Honda V Flow fuel cell stack."

    http://world.honda.com/news/2007/4071114...

    It definitely has potential for "future car technology". In fact Honda just gave the first Individual Customer from Las Angeles a 2 year lease on the FCX.

    http://world.honda.com/news/2005/4050629...

    I built my first hydrogen cell about 5 years ago and now currently run 2 trucks, my home hot water heater, home stove and home generator on hydrogen and offer a step by step DIY guide to walk anyone interested threw the process. You can find it at http://www.agua-luna.com/hydrogen.html or you can email me.

    You can also try making your own. There are basically 3 safe ways to make and use it... chemically, electrically and molecularly, the first 2 being easier so I'll only discuss them here. The fallowing steps were taking directly out of a DIY guide I offer to those who would like to run their vehicles or home on hydrogen safely. The entire guide is available at http://www.agua-luna.com/guides.html

    On demand h2 generators are a bit different from the Hollywood versions like seen Chain Reaction with Keanu Reeves, that tend to explode violently every time a film is being made. However when used in an on-demand system there is no storage of hydrogen and oxygen in its gas form, only liquid (water) and is only transformed into gas “on-demand” in small cylinder size amounts. It’s actually safer then gasoline as it doesn’t evaporate, creating explosive fumes in the tank like gas.

    Chemically

    1.     You’ll need a 6inch x 1ft schedule 40 pvc pipe. With pvc cement glue a cap on the bottom and use a s***w on cap for the top. Drill a small hole (1/4inch or so) in the side close to the top, s******g in a small copper shut off valve. Place a few feet of stranded (food grade is good) flex hose to the valve and into the air intake of your engine (carburetor or fuel injections).

    2.     Now crunch up a couple aluminum cans (beer cans, soda cans etc) and drop them into the pvc pipe, along with a couple cups of lye (Red Devil drain opener has lye in it, some Clorox and Drano’s do to).

    3.     Then simply add water, s***w on the top and wait a few minutes.

    What happens in simplicity is that aluminum and lye don’t really get along so they battle, and as always the innocent civilians (water H2O) that the most casualties, by giving up its hydrogen and oxygen. This then builds up in the void of the pipe and is ready to be vented into your engine, by opening the valve. You may need to start your engine on gas then switch it off after the hydrogen starts burning.

    Electrical is a bit easier then Chemically.

    1. Simply take a small solar panel 1.5 amps is what I use ($9 at harborfreight.com), connect the 2 wires from the panel +- to 2 conductors (carbon cores of batteries work well, just be careful removing it from the jacket), but any conductive material will work ie. Copper, aluminum, steel, etc.

    2. Drop the wires into a water tank (I use 55gal drums), make sure they don’t touch each other.

    3. Drill a small hole (1/4inch or so) in the side close to the top, s******g in a small copper shut off valve. Place a few feet of stranded (food grade is good) flex hose to the valve and into the air intake of your engine (carburetor or fuel injections).

    4. Then simply add water, s***w on the top cap and wait.

    After a few hours tiny bubbles will form and rise off one conductor (that’s hydrogen) and even smaller bubbles that just looks like foam will rise off the other (oxygen). I don’t remember which likes the positive and which likes the neg hydrogen or the oxygen.

    The third method is more complicated and is what I use for my vehicles. It’s just a modified Joe’s Cell, there’s a step by step DIY guide available to walk you threw the process here http://www.agua-luna.com/hydrogen.html. It also covers the other 2 methods described in more detail.

    Hope this helped, feel free to contact me personally if you have any questions if you’d like assistance in making your first self sufficient steps, I’m willing to walk you step by step threw the process. I’ve written several how-to DIY guides available at http://www.agua-luna.com on the subject. I also offer online and on-site workshops, seminars and internships to help others help the environment.

    Dan Martin

    Retired Boeing Engineer now living 100% Off-the-Grid with my family, using Alternative Energy & loving every minute.

    for more info visit agua-luna or email me at agualuna@lycos.com


  2. Water is a theoretically, physically, logically impossible fuel source. Any fuel must burn. Water does not burn, it puts out fire. ALL engines claimed to burn water as a fuel are FRAUDS! If water could power an engine then it could be burned in a heater or fire place or oil lamp. Only people who have no clue how engines work could ever be fooled into thinking that any old liquid can be a fuel. It isn't the fact that it is a liquid that can be poured that makes it a fuel. It is the fact that it is flammable that makes it a fuel.

  3. There is no such thing as a water powered engine.  There never has been a water powered engine, and there never will be.  This is because it is impossible, it will not work, it will never work, and no one can make it work.  Please get this through your thick skull and stop asking this question!!!!

  4. they want one but can't afford it i guess.

  5. water powered engines like hydro-generators to charge batteries for electric vehicles would be a good idea; but the US (the state where most oil business & consumption is based) scuppered any electric vehicle development http://www.whokilledtheelectriccar.com

    If you mean water split into hydrogen for a fuel-cell electric car then the Gulf states are progressing faster than most http://www.arabnews.com/?page=6&section=...

    These "oil states" know oil is finite & the reducing production cannot keep up with increasing demand & are looking for alternatives

    otherwise water is not a fuel in the same sense of oil;

  6. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    NO Really? are you serious?  you kidding me right? god I hope so!

    The short answer is NO!

    now do a search on youtube for the aircar ;-)

  7. A water powered car is impractical.  Water itself doesn't burn, i think somebody pointed that out, but hydrogen does.  The process of separating the hydrogen from water is not efficient, it takes more energy to separate them than is produced by the hydrogen.  did a science experiment on it in 8th grade and went to regionals. For the amount of electricity i used i got only a small amount of hydrogen.  Maybe new technology will make this practical.  

    At this point the most reasonable alternative fuel vehicle is an electric car.  Advances in battery technology have given them ranges of 120+ miles and top speeds of over 100 mph.  The aptera is an example of one you can google it.  It does look weird but that is just to keep the aerodynamic drag down.  The company says they will be profitable if they only sell 300 cars.  the all electric version will be around 27000 and the plug in hybrid will be around 2900.  The all electric version will go up to 85 mph and about 120 miles per charge.  They are due out at the end of this year in california.

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