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Do u care about global warming at all?

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if u do than what do u do about it. if not why don't u care?

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  1. I think the global warming issue is fascinating because it allows me to see how disinformation, ignorance, and lack of critical thinking are so rampant in a society full of people who believe the earth is 6,000 years old, Jesus is coming soon, and and who cite books 11 years old that have been completely dismantled as evidence.


  2. I don't because it is a LIE.

  3. No not at all.  The Earth's climate is always going to change.  Now it's cooler than it was in the last 20 years.

    This is nature.  We need to know that we have no control over nature, and deal with it.

    Man cannot effect the climate.  We now know the Sun does that.

  4. Study the green house gas. They are not what they say . So if the gas is not there neither is GW.

  5. Science Has Spoken:

    Global Warming Is a Myth

    by Arthur B. Robinson and Zachary W. Robinson

    Copyright 1997 Dow Jones & Co., Inc.

    Reprinted with permission of Dow Jones & Co., Inc.

    The Wall Street Journal (December 4, 1997)

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    Political leaders are gathered in Kyoto, Japan, working away on an international treaty to stop "global warming" by reducing carbon dioxide emissions. The debate over how much to cut emissions has at times been heated--but the entire enterprise is futile or worse. For there is not a shred of persuasive evidence that humans have been responsible for increasing global temperatures. What's more, carbon dioxide emissions have actually been a boon for the environment.

    The myth of "global warming" starts with an accurate observation: The amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is rising. It is now about 360 parts per million, vs. 290 at the beginning of the 20th century, Reasonable estimates indicate that it may eventually rise as high as 600 parts per million. This rise probably results from human burning of coal, oil and natural gas, although this is not certain. Earth's oceans and land hold some 50 times as much carbon dioxide as is in the atmosphere, and movement between these reservoirs of carbon dioxide is poorly understood. The observed rise in atmospheric carbon dioxide does correspond with the time of human release and equals about half of the amount released.

    Carbon dioxide, water, and a few other substances are "greenhouse gases." For reasons predictable from their physics and chemistry, they tend to admit more solar energy into the atmosphere than they allow to escape. Actually, things are not so simple as this, since these substances interact among themselves and with other aspects of the atmosphere in complex ways that are not well understood. Still, it was reasonable to hypothesize that rising atmospheric carbon dioxide levels might cause atmospheric temperatures to rise. Some people predicted "global warming," which has come to mean extreme greenhouse warming of the atmosphere leading to catastrophic environmental consequences.

    Careful Tests

    The global-warming hypothesis, however, is no longer tenable. Scientists have been able to test it carefully, and it does not hold up. During the past 50 years, as atmospheric carbon dioxide levels have risen, scientists have made precise measurements of atmospheric temperature. These measurements have definitively shown that major atmospheric greenhouse warming of the atmosphere is not occurring and is unlikely ever to occur.

    The temperature of the atmosphere fluctuates over a wide range, the result of solar activity and other influences. During the past 3,000 years, there have been five extended periods when it was distinctly warmer than today. One of the two coldest periods, known as the Little Ice Age, occurred 300 years ago. Atmospheric temperatures have been rising from that low for the past 300 years, but remain below the 3,000-year average.



    Why are temperatures rising? The first chart nearby shows temperatures during the past 250 years, relative to the mean temperature for 1951-70. The same chart shows the length of the solar magnetic cycle during the same period. Close correlation between these two parameters--the shorter the solar cycle (and hence the more active the sun), the higher the temperature--demonstrates, as do other studies, that the gradual warming since the Little Ice Age and the large fluctuations during that warming have been caused by changes in solar activity.

    The highest temperatures during this period occurred in about 1940. During the past 20 years, atmospheric temperatures have actually tended to go down, as shown in the second chart, based on very reliable satellite data, which have been confirmed by measurements from weather balloons.

    Consider what this means for the global-warming hypothesis. This hypothesis predicts that global temperatures will rise significantly, indeed catastrophically, if atmospheric carbon dioxide rises. Most of the increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide has occurred during the past 50 years, and the increase has continued during the past 20 years. Yet there has been no significant increase in atmospheric temperature during those 50 years, and during the 20 years with the highest carbon dioxide levels, temperatures have decreased.

    In science, the ultimate test is the process of experiment. If a hypothesis fails the experimental test, it must be discarded. Therefore, the scientific method requires that the global warming hypothesis be rejected.

    Why, then, is there continuing scientific interest in "global warming"? There is a field of inquiry in which scientists are using computers to try to predict the weather--even global weather over very long periods. But global weather is so complicated that current data and computer methods are insufficient to make such predictions. Although it is reasonable to hope that these methods will eventually become useful, for now computer climate models are very unreliable. The second chart shows predicted temperatures for the past 20 years, based on the computer models. It's not surprising that they should have turned out wrong--after all the weatherman still has difficulty predicting local weather even for a few days. Long-term global predictions are beyond current capabilities.

    So we needn't worry about human use of hydrocarbons warming the Earth. We also needn't worry about environmental calamities, even if the current, natural warming trend continues: After all the Earth has been much warmer during the past 3,000 years without ill effects.

    But we should worry about the effects of the hydrocarbon rationing being proposed at Kyoto. Hydrocarbon use has major environmental benefits. A great deal of research has shown that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide accelerate the growth rates of plants and also permit plants to grow in drier regions. Animal life, which depends upon plants, also increases.

    Standing timber in the United States has already increased by 30% since 1950. There are now 60 tons of timber for every American. Tree-ring studies further confirm this spectacular increase in tree growth rates. It has also been found that mature Amazonian rain forests are increasing in biomass at about two tons per acre per year. A composite of 279 research studies predicts that overall plant growth rates will ultimately double as carbon dioxide increases.

    Lush Environment

    What mankind is doing is moving hydrocarbons from below ground and turning them into living things. We are living in an increasingly lush environment of plants and animals as a result of the carbon dioxide increase. Our children will enjoy an Earth with twice as much plant and animal life as that with which we now are blessed. This is a wonderful and unexpected gift from the industrial revolution.

    Hydrocarbons are needed to feed and lift from poverty vast numbers of people across the globe. This can eventually allow all human beings to live long, prosperous, healthy, productive lives. No other single technological factor is more important to the increase in the quality, length and quantity of human life than the continued, expanded and unrationed use of the Earth's hydrocarbons, of which we have proven reserves to last more than 1,000 years. Global warming is a myth. The reality is that global poverty and death would be the result of Kyoto's rationing of hydrocarbons.

    Arthur Robinson and Zachary Robinson are chemists at the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine.

  6. Yes, I try to educate the uninformed skeptics here.  Ok, some are informed but in denial.

    I live with a fairly small footprint on the earth, not buying very many consumer products, driving about half the average miles per year, etc



    Lets take a look at the source that **Anti-P has offered as evidence.

      The Wall St. Journal has an axe to grind.  They are ultra conservative and that is the reason for publishing this phony study.

      And yes it is phony.   The two scientists who wrote the paper which the article is based on are funded by a right wing propaganda machine.

    Real climate scientists, who have new findings, present them to other scientists for peer review.  No legitimate scientific paper is published until it is studied by other scientists.  The paper, that the WSJ used, was just a manuscript, which hadn't been shown to other scientists.  It was not reviewed by other scientists.   Real scientists do just that, rather than go throught the popular media, with the intention of swaying public opinion with untested theories.  It's bunk, as any real scientist will tell you.

      

      Here's the kind of scientific conferences that the skeptics hold.

    "Over the past days, many of us have received invitations to a conference called "The 2008 International Conference on Climate Change" in New York. At first sight this may look like a scientific conference - especially to those who are not familiar with the activities of the Heartland Institute, a front group for the fossil fuel industry that is sponsoring the conference. You may remember them. They were the promoters of the Avery and Singer "Unstoppable" tour and purveyors of disinformation about numerous topics such as the demise of Kilimanjaro's ice cap. "

    "A number of things reveal that this is no ordinary scientific meeting:"

    "Normal scientific conferences have the goal of discussing ideas and data in order to advance scientific understanding. Not this one. The organisers are suprisingly open about this in their invitation letter to prospective speakers, which states:"

    "The purpose of the conference is to generate international media attention to the fact that many scientists believe forecasts of rapid warming and catastrophic events are not supported by sound science, and that expensive campaigns to reduce greenhouse gas emissions are not necessary or cost-effective."

    "So this conference is not aimed at understanding, it is a PR event aimed at generating media reports. (The "official" conference goals presented to the general public on their website sound rather different, though - evidently these are already part of the PR campaign.) "

    "At the regular scientific conferences we attend in our field, like the AGU conferences or many smaller ones, we do not get any honorarium for speaking - if we are lucky, we get some travel expenses paid or the conference fee waived, but often not even this. We attend such conferences not for personal financial gains but because we like to discuss science with other scientists. The Heartland Institute must have realized that this is not what drives the kind of people they are trying to attract as speakers: they are offering $1,000 to those willing to give a talk. This reminds us of the American Enterprise Institute last year offering a honorarium of $10,000 for articles by scientists disputing anthropogenic climate change. So this appear to be the current market prices for calling global warming into question: $1000 for a lecture and $10,000 for a written paper."



    " At regular scientific conferences, an independent scientific committee selects the talks. Here, the financial sponsors get to select their favorite speakers. The Heartland website is seeking sponsors and in return for the cash promises "input into the program regarding speakers and panel topics". Easier than predicting future climate is therefore to predict who some of those speakers will be. We will be surprised if they do not include the many of the usual suspects e.g. Fred Singer, Pat Michaels, Richard Lindzen, Roy Spencer, and other such luminaries. (For those interested in scientists' links to industry sponsors, use the search function on sites like sourcewatch.org or exxonsecrets.org.)

    Heartland promises a free weekend at the Marriott Marquis in Manhattan, including travel costs, to all elected officials wanting to attend.

    This is very nice hotel indeed. Our recommendation to those elected officials tempted by the offer: enjoy a great weekend in Manhattan at Heartland's expense and don't waste your time on tobacco-science lectures - you are highly unlikely to hear any real science there."

      by Amanda Lang

    http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/arc...

      And if you think climate scientists are exagerating or over stating their case, maybe because they are alarmists, communists, hoaxers or scammers, or whatever other delusion some  believe, be sure to go to this website.

    http://www.skirsch.com/politics/globalwa...

      And read this.

    "The big difference I have with the doubters is they believe the IPCC reports seriously overstate the impact of human emissions on the climate, whereas the actual observed climate data clearly show the reports dramatically understate the impact."

    "One of the most serious results of the overuse of the term "consensus" in the public discussion of global warming is that it creates a simple strategy for doubters to confuse the public, the press and politicians: Simply come up with as long a list as you can of scientists who dispute the theory. After all, such disagreement is prima facie proof that no consensus of opinion exists."

    "So we end up with the absurd but pointless spectacle of the leading denier in the U.S. Senate, James Inhofe, R-Okla., who recently put out a list of more than 400 names of supposedly "prominent scientists" who supposedly "recently voiced significant objections to major aspects of the so-called 'consensus' on man-made global warming."

    "As it turned out, the list is both padded and laughable, containing the opinions of TV weathermen, economists, a bunch of non-prominent scientists who aren't climate experts, and, perhaps surprisingly, even a number of people who actually believe in the consensus."

    "But in any case, nothing could be more irrelevant to climate science than the opinion of people on the list such as Weather Channel founder John Coleman or famed inventor Ray Kurzweil (who actually does "think global warming is real"). Or, for that matter, my opinion -- even though I researched a Ph.D. thesis at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography on physical oceanography in the Greenland Sea."

    "What matters is scientific findings -- data, not opinions. The IPCC relies on the peer-reviewed scientific literature for its conclusions, which must meet the rigorous requirements of the scientific method and which are inevitably scrutinized by others seeking to disprove that work. That is why I cite and link to as much research as is possible, hundreds of studies in the case of this article. Opinions are irrelevant."

    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/0... The Cold Truth about Global Warming by Joseph Romm

    And this is who the skeptics say have no clue.

    Regarding the IPCC report on climate change.

    "The conclusions reached in this document have been explicitly endorsed by ..."

    Academia Brasiliera de Ciências (Bazil)

    Royal Society of Canada

    Chinese Academy of Sciences

    Academié des Sciences (France)

    Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina (Germany)

    Indian National Science Academy

    Accademia dei Lincei (Italy)

    Science Council of Japan

    Russian Academy of Sciences

    Royal Society (United Kingdom)

    National Academy of Sciences (United States of America)

    Australian Academy of Sciences

    Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts

    Caribbean Academy of Sciences

    Indonesian Academy of Sciences

    Royal Irish Academy

    Academy of Sciences Malaysia

    Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand

    Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences

    "In addition to these national academies, the following institutions specializing in climate, atmosphere, ocean, and/or earth sciences have endorsed or published the same conclusions as presented in the TAR report:

    NASA's Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS)

    National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)

    National Academy of Sciences (NAS)

    State of the Canadian Cryosphere (SOCC)

    Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)

    Royal Society of the United Kingdom (RS)

    American Geophysical Union (AGU)

    American Institute of Physics (AIP)

    National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)

    American Meteorological Society (AMS)

    Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society (CMOS)

      I suppose you expect us to believe that all these scientists are somehow part of a hoax or conspiracy or some other delusional conspiracy theory.

    "This consensus is represented in the IPCC Third Assessment Report, Working Group 1 (TAR WG1), the most comprehensive compilation and summary of current climate research ever attempted, and arguably the most thoroughly peer reviewed scientific document in history. While this review was sponsored by the UN, the research it compiled and reviewed was not, and the scientists involved were independent and came from all over the world."

    http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11

    Is Sen Inhofe, and his phony list of skeptics, who the skeptics listen to?

    http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11...

  7. I would care more, if the evidence for it were fact.  

    The IPCC finding are so terribly biased and skewed you cannot accept them as scientific fact.  Over 1/3 of the scientists invited to the original panel study have/had asked to have their names removed from the study because they found the research to be extremely incorrect.  It was only when they threatened with lawsuits did the panel remove their names from the study.

    There are more scientists who are skeptical of GW than those who believe in it contrary to what you hear on many GW alarmist blogs.

    We should just let the Earth do what it has done for as long as it has been here.  Work through these cycles on it's own.  My ego is not so big, nor should all of mankinds to think that we have any significant effect on what the Earth's climate cycles are.  The latest data shows that Mankind contributes less than a meager 4% to any possible climate change.  It scares me to think that our government is allowing itself to be bullied by other governments and certain agencies into writing up legislation that would throw away so many of our tax dollars into something we could never hope to control or regulate to the levels necessary for meaningful change.

    The 70's scared us with Global Cooling

    Now we are being scared with Global Warming (btw, the Global Temperature has declined the past 9 years)

    What is next?  Armageddon!!

  8. AGW is more like a religion, than a science.

    It fine if everyone who believes in AGW wants to buy a hybrid car and try to save energy, but it's a bit unreasonable if all the believers want to force others to pay more tax because of their beliefs.

  9. I dont believe at all, if it means having a really white Christmas and really hot summers then bring it on.....

    And people who moan about the flood areas they live in must have been aware of it before they moved there!, Either through local knowledge or there land registry details when they bought the property.... not to mention the insurance companies letting you know

    What about the Polar bears, Penguins etc....  to be honest as much as they are wonderful creatures who cares, I've never seen one in reall life, I was introduced to them through books and media and what a wonderful medium it was!!!

    Sure I've seen them at a zoo.... What freedom they had!!!

    And now our govt is just doing more to Pee us off about Global warming, petrol up, car tax up, heating bills up..... and now i have to pay for plastic carrier bags because some bloody images of a turtle getting tangled in one is splashed across the media......

    The human race is like a highly advanced Bacteria..... it will just consume everything regardless of whether I put my rubbish in the correctl coloured bins and re-use my 2p shopping bag

  10. Of course I do.  I live in a place where flashfloods, landslides occur and I know that these are the effects of global warming.  What do I do about it?  I interview people who have knowledge about global warming during my radio program.

  11. I care..... I don't use plastic

  12. No, I don't care about myths.

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