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Do we need to have stricter environmental laws on motorcycles and scooters since they are becoming popular?

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Many HD's are running with straight pipe exhausts, thats illegal on a car in most states cause it makes polluton and adds to global warming!

We need Federal environmental laws that all motorcycles and scooters must pass a strict low emission test

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  1. there are emission laws on bikes, QUIT WITH THE LAW LAW LAW BS. d**n government is allready way too far up our arses!!!!!!!!!


  2. NO! but we do need new laws to cut down on the useless pollution coming from your key board.

  3. Mine already does - it was made in Europe and passes their emission standards.  It is mostly the US made bikes that would produce higher emissions because most like the loud rumble of the motor, and you can't have that if you put emission controls on the bike.

    The second thing is that bikes don't produce even close to the amount of emissions as cars (even though they might have motors with greater displacement) and since they don't burn as much fuel, that is even better.  I don't think there would be anything positive about the government rushing in to regulate motorcycle emissions.  If anything, they would s***w things up, just like always.

  4. GREEN GREEN GREEN IM SICK OF IT!!!

    You wouldnt walk into a police station and tell a cop 2 swap his V8 patrol car 4 a Prius hybrid so why should we lower motobike emmisions????

    cars buses trucks n factories r the ones 2 blame! most motobike have like 1 or 2 cylinders so y pick on the little guy

  5. NO, we don't need anymore law telling what we can do to our bikes!  I am sure you are DO NOT own one or at least operate one.  LEAVE OUR BIKES ALONE!

  6. First off, bikes ARE required to meet emissions standards and changing pipes doesn't necessarily mean an increase in pollutants.  IF the new pipes require carburation changes and those changes are made properly, there will be little if any change in emissions output.  The only way a pipe change will make a difference is if the OEM had catylitic converters and those are removed along with the pipes.

    Incidently, the average lawnmower produces more pollution than a car (or bike).  And yes Pedro, there is talk of putting catylitic converters onto lawnmowers.  So Joe B, first get your facts straight and instead of campaigning against Harleys, maybe you should go to the LawnBoy factory with your picket sign.

  7. Sure go ahead after you compensate for how much less material they take to produce and how much more parking space could be used for  planting a tree on and that other green c**p. Some countries are actually smart enough to give a tax credit for buying a MC as it's considered a fuel economy vehicle. Even the batteries are smaller and add up to less overall enviro damage when it comes to replace and recycle.

    Please dont give the fed any new ideas even if you got a good one it's all screwed up and tied to pork by the time it get's passed into law. Best to  let them sit on their fat rear and collect luxury welfare and do nothing.

  8. From the factory they do pass emission tests. It's the owners changing the pipes, which many wankers with cars do too. So what's the problem?

  9. great..[sic]..how about a freaking catalitic converter on my lawnmower?

  10. First off, Global warming is a natural phenomenon and we contribute far less than people think.  Motorcycles emit such low emissions it's hardly worth talking about, really. People have straight pipes so motorists can hear them. When my HD had stock pipes on it, I was cut off on a regular basis. Now I have straight (with baffles) pipes, I hardly ever get cut off. I think we all should be riding motorcycles.

  11. Joe,

    Loud pipes do not add pollution, contrary to what you may have heard.

    But let's look a bit deeper: I live in a state that doesn't even have vehicle safety inspections and only minor emissions testing in a few metro cities, yet pollution is not as bad as it was 25 years ago . . . .oops.

    I had a 79 Dodge truck with the 5.2L (318) engine that got 24 mpg highway (28 in town) that had one pollution control, the PCV. On a sniffer test, it met US 1975 levels at 395K miles (one overhaul, btw at 280K). And it could tow 12K over an 10K mountain pass (Vail Pass, CO) to boot.

    The real problem is that the EPA finally hired their first scientist, a botanist, last year and they still have no one qualified in automotive engineering. All these years, we've had therorists passing laws without any empirical scientific evidence.

    As a result, in 1972, gas mileage cut in half to reduce pollution 0.0001% of the original unregulated levels PER GALLON of fuel (pre-PCV systems, 1950's and earlier).  What idiocy!!! The net pollution went up!!!!

    I retuned a 72 Dodge Charger (400, auto)  to 1968 specifications and gas mileage went to 17 (town) 22 (highway) and it never lost a race. Btw, I had it tested and pollution dropped because the fuel was being completely burned and less was being wasted in the exhaust system.

    In my opinion, if the EPA ever made the mistake of hiring scientists and engineers qualified to do the proper research, it would collapse like a punctured ballon. We can only hope . . .

    In case you're wondering, Global Warming? Go to some non-Al Gore supporting site ( US weather service comes to mind) and you'll find the Earth has been cooling since before his movie came out . . .think for yourselfe, do some research from all sources and not just the ones that agree with you.

    Budd

  12. sure,we all need more fn laws....start the ball rolling by welding your exhaust closed

  13. No we don't need any more laws to protect ourselves from ourselves.

  14. the dictatorship of kalifornia already requires catalytic converters...

    sorry, i'd rather NOT have any more laws governing my bike, thanks...

    I don't follow the ones they DO have most of the time...

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