Do woman have it easier and more rights based on these 10 statements? would you agree?

Question

1. Guy's are supposed to open the door for woman

2. A man is the devil if he hits a woman but a woman is still just a woman if she hits a man

3. In most cases men never get custody of there child and is told when he can or cannot see his child.

4. Men are supposed to pay for everything on a date.

5. Men are considered losers if they don't make money or lose there job.

6. Men are supposed to give up our seat for a woman.

7. Woman get half in divorce even if she never worked a day in her life.

8. Woman don't have to go to war if they don't want.

9. Woman get less jail time in most cases for the same crime a man does.

10. Woman are rarely asked to help with any sort of hard labor or moving equiptment.

And men pay more for car insurance

And who has more rights and who gets treated unfairly men or woman??

Answer 1

As it has been said since you made up your mind it doesn't really matter what anyone else says to you.  As for a housewife being a vacation you are sadly mistaken.  Its so much easier to have a job.  I however disagree with anyone who says get a real job be a housewife... because its rude.  Its a great job and your lucky if you get to do it but no reason to insult others.

Any ways to your list...

1. I hate guys that have to rush to open a door for me; if your there fine; if not I can open a door myself its not that hard to figure out.

2. A man hitting a women is a jack nut; a women hitting a man is a bi!ch unless she is defending herself.

3. Today this statement is bs I know several men who received custody and no the women was not a lousy mother or on drugs.

4. Not true but if you want to go dutch it should be discussed up front.  The truth is the individual who asked for the date should pay.

5. Not true either... They just feel that way... I know a lot of women that don't mind being the bread winner or supporting the family if the man stays home to raise kids.

6. I would never take that sit and I have a disability.

7. I admit I was married once before to a loser (live and learn) I had to pay him support... I am sure I am not the only women screwed in a divorce.  

8. Men don't have to go to war if they don't want.  I freely served and you?  They plan to re-do the draft to include women and raise the age limit.

9. I have never seen anything on this but I doubt its true...

10. Please at two of my jobs I couldn't get a man to lift anything heavy; all the women had to come to me to do that...

Men pay more for car insurance because a statistic says men drive dangerously and get into more accidents.  

Who has more right and gets treated unfairly... I think now a days that depends on what issue you refer to.

Answer 2

You know that a woman had to go through a lot to push you out into this world you think favors women. Think of all the third world countries where women are treated like property and tell me if you still think we have it good. We work very hard in a marriage, even if we don't have a "job". Do you have a bad relationship with your mother? Is that where all of this hostitlity is coming from? I think you should look at people as people, not black, white, male, female... cause really, we are all the same with the same hopes and dreams for our families and our lives. Quit stereotyping, isn't there enough of that in this world???

Answer 3

1 Everyone should open doors for everyone else. Seriously.

2 Possibly true... but still a stereotype. I can think up pleanty of things men get away with that women can't - fighting friends in public (unladylike), getting drunk or being rowdy etc

3 Most men never sue for custody - and more that did would get it if people stoped claiming "women are child-raisers" - that stereotype hurts everyone

4 Not since the 80s, now most couples go dutch.

5 So are women

6 Not since the 50s. And fair enough, most don't. It's different if she's pregnant, unless you fund fainting pregnant women amusing.

7 The idea is the one at fault has to support the one who, they assume, gave up opportunity to support him. So it's *especially* if she's never worked and has been a housewife.

8 Neither do men. The draft does not exist, people would riot if it was re-instated

9 Not sure on this. But I know if a man goes in, he is most likely to still have a partner when he comes out. If a women goes in, she is very unlikely to still have a partner when she comes out. So it's not exactly easy for women either

10 How often have strangers asked you to help with manual labour? I'm sure women are asked to help with other chores, babysitting etc. (If it's a job, don't do that job)

And men pay more because statistically, they have most accidents. As do owners of red sports cars. It's not discrimination against red sports car owners.

Even if your entire list was accurate (which it isn't) you can't cherry-pick certain examples of unfairness to onje side and claim that that side is discriminated. We could come back with a list twice as long of examples of how women are unfairly treated but such an exercise is ultimately futile, and just results in people picking out random examples liek these and not looking at the underlying problems - unsubstantiated stereotyping.

Answer 4

I think you have prepared a lovely list of meaningless stereotypes, generalizations and personal gripes.

Answer 5

Being a housewife is NOT like a vacation, believe me. What kind of vacation has you planning, cooking, and cleaning up after 3 meals a day, constantly picking up and organizing, doing dishes, doing laundry, changing sheets, vacuuming, grocery shopping, gardening, and picking up dry cleaning? What kind of vacation has you working on chores all day, seven days a week, without any time off, in addition to acting as a personal maid/ chauffeur/ chef/ entertainer/ nanny / psychologist/ tutor for your kids? In addition you're expected to look smashingly made-up and perfectly dressed by your husband since what you do all day is "no real work"? In addition you have little or no money of your own? Not any vacation YOU'D want to go on, I'm betting.

1. I find men and women holding doors for me about equally. If I enter first, I hold the door. It's not hard.

2. In Virginia, whoever hit the other automatically gets arrested on the spot, regardless of gender.

3. The idea of "the virgin mother" is falling away...more and more kids are getting placed with their dads and/or have more flextime with dad.

4. I usually alternate with my date, or let him pay if he REALLY insists on paying (some guys spend money like they've got something to compensate for, if you know what I mean.) Maybe you're dating the wrong kind of woman?

5. Girls are also considered losers if they don't make much money. I've often felt persecuted for being out of work.

6. Really? I ride the metro a lot and this has never happened to me. I've given up my seat for single dads and old folks though, and been happy to do it.

7. Men also get half in divorce, even if woman made all the money. Should have gotten that pre-nup!

8. I agree with you this is unfair, and I'm lobbying to get it changed so women can fight on the frontlines. It's ridiculous and old-fashioned.

9. I don't know much about this, so I can't dispute it,

10. I ALWAYS offer to help with this kind of thing!! But I always get turned down (by a guy) in favor of having guys help! How sexist is that! Though in my defense, when my boyfriend and I moved into our current apartment, I carried half the weight of every single large piece of furniture (king size bed, futon couch, his desk, my desk) up a flight of stairs! So maybe guys should stop being so sexist and start letting us strong girls help out, huh?

Answer 6

Most of these things aren't rights.

Answer 7

Yeah i think your right, women get more freedom.

Answer 8

Women oughta always be in control

Answer 9

I'm not sure that you are aware that it is 2008.

1.  Opening doors for women is not required.  It is a matter of politeness.  If being asked to do this violates a man's rights or makes life "harder" for him, then, by all means, he should not do it.

2.  Women are arrested for domestic violence all the time now.

3.  Shared custody is the most common arrangement at this time.  I think you are correct that mothers tend to have the children more of the time.  I don't think this is an issue of rights as much as it is a belief that smaller children need the type of nurturing and stability that mothers more commonly offer.  If you want to see that as more "right", fine.  But it's certainly not "easier."

4.  Men pay for everything on a date????  Maybe the first one, but most couples I know, once they've become a couple, have a much more equitable arrangement.

5. Men are losers if they don't have jobs--and so are women.  In this economy, both people usually have to work.  If they can afford for one person to stay home, it is usually the mother (which is working), but we are seeing a big increase in stay-at-home dads and the stigma attached to that is rapidly fading.

6.  Yes. Men are supposed to give up their seats for women and women are supposed to give up their seats to the elderly and everyone, even children, give up their seats to someone who is pregnant, using a cane, etc.  This is about being a polite member of a community group and giving up your seat to someone who is perceived to be weaker than you.  It may be a misperception--it's not an issue of rights.  No woman has the right to to force a man from his seat.

7.  Women who do not work are at home taking care of kids than the home.  There is an implied agreement that that is how that couple is splitting up the work.  So, she should get 1/2.  If this arrangement doesn't suit you, get a prenup and pay for childcare.  Men get 1/2 from women all the time these day.

8.  We have not had a draft in so long that this statement is antiquated.  If women are in the armed services, they go to war when they are sent.

9.  I'm not sure about sentencing time-and you might be right that there is a societal bias towards women there. Women do serve less time-absolutely-because the amount of time their sentence is reduced for good behavior is significantly higher than men's.  A reward for good behavior is not a "right."

10.  Typically, women are not as physically strong as men.  It's not always they case, but more often than not.  So they are not asked to do something that would be harder for them to do than it would be for a man.

Yes.  Men pay more for car insurance--because statistically they make much higher claims.  It costs the insurance company more to have a many on their policy.  This is not a rights issue.  It's a "what's fair" issue.  Why should everyone's policy go up because men have shown themselves, statistically, to be involved in much more expensive accidents.

Answer 10

You have NO CLUE how truly difficult life is.  Both men and women have a hard life.  Life is hard.  If my only problems were opening a door, taking a slap from a woman, following the judgments of a Court of Law as to my divorce, paying for a meal, being called a loser by someone I don't care about, giving up a seat, signing up for selective service, knowing I will never be called and picking up a piece of furniture, my life would be a breeze.  You haven't even scratched the surface of the real difficulties of life that both sexes face.

How many men have to go to bed hungry every night so that the children can eat, just because their husband gets pissy about child support?

BTW, women never get released from jail for overcrowding, and that more than makes up for any perceived discrepancy of prison sentence.  

Why must people insist on this boys are better than girls, girls have it easy  - elementary school lunchbox dialogs.  This incessant drivel is a waste of time.

Can't you have respect for both men and women and leave it at that?

Answer 11

1. opening the door: I don't consider this an advantage for women. It implies weakness.

2. hitting a woman: So does this.

3. custody: This is also a problem for women; it assumes that they are infallibly better parents. This will lead to problems for children.

4. paying on a date: And women are supposed to shut up and let them, even if they want to split; how is THAT a good thing?

5. wealth: These days, that applies to everyone.

6. giving up the seat: Not anymore. Now it's just for the elderly and pregnant women.

7. alimony: This is also a problem for women; I think some believe that alimony will save them in the event of divorce, and those women haven't learned the value of financial independence.

8. war: And when they do, they are often immediately disqualified from going into combat, individual ability notwithstanding.

9. jail time: See #1 and #2.

10. hard labour: So why don't people ask them? See #1, #2, and #9.

11. car insurance: This is just plain idiotic.

Conclusion: Unfairness to one s*x automatically equals unfairness to the other, even if it isn't immediately evident.

Answer 12

If you want to make an argument based on only hearing one side of an argument...

I'm sure women could easily offer you a list of 10 things that are easier for men...

For the record...

... I open the door for everyone.

... You shouldn't hit people period, men or women.

... Most men do not even ask for sole custody.

... No one gets respect if they don't have a job (raising children counts as having a job). Women or men.

... When was the last military draft in the US ? Vietnam ?

... Women commit far fewer violent crimes. Consider lighter sentences as leniency based on a better record, same goes for lower car insurance.

... People ask the more capable person to do a job. That often tends to be men for hard labor. Would you rather they ask a 5 foot 2, 90 lb woman to do hard labor work, while you likely twice her weight or more supervised ?

Answer 13

It would seem that in the western world, women do have quite a few side benefits, while the benefits that men once had have been scandalized and rendered unacceptable

Answer 14

1. Guy's[sic] are supposed to open the door for woman[sic]

Not true. I open doors for people all the time.

2. A man is the devil if he hits a woman but a woman is still just a woman if she hits a man

I feel if I'm moved to take a swing at a man he can hit me back.

3. In most cases men never get custody of there[sic] child and is told when he can or cannot see his child.

Joint custody is quite the rage these days.

4. Men are supposed to pay for everything on a date.

I wish someone would tell the louses I've dated this....

5. Men are considered losers if they don't make money or lose there[sic] job.

When my husband lost his job, I didn't sit around bitching at him. I went active duty and he became a SAHD.

6. Men are supposed to give up our seat for a woman.

When in God's name does this happen?

7. Woman get half in divorce even if she never worked a day in her life.

Staying at home to raise children is challenging work. You can either complain that women get alimony or that women work out of the home. You don't get to complain about both.

8. Woman don't have to go to war if they don't want.

That's funny. Neither do men. The draft has been over for some time. I'm willing to bet you aren't in the Middle East right now. I am.

9. Woman get less jail time in most cases for the same crime a man does.

Such as?

10. Woman are rarely asked to help with any sort of hard labor or moving equiptment.

Again, I wish someone would point that out to the men in my life. Hah!

And men pay more for car insurance.

You're more likely to get in wrecks. Insurance companies didn't decide to charge you more for the fun of it.

And who has more rights and who gets treated unfairly men or woman??

I think you need a drink darlin'.