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Do you believe in Honour Killing?

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I'm 16 and a reverted Muslim from Christianity. I know all about the Crusades to fight for Jesus, but I don't agree with Honour killings. I know that Islam doesn't codone this, but why does muslims do it? Even if a girl is raped, she can be stoned? Why, its not her fault!!! Yes, we all may bring dishonor to our family in small or major ways, but this is toooo FARRR!!

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  1. We as muslims believe in Apostate killing, honor killings are nothing, afterall killing people who leave Islam is also Honor killing.


  2. It has nothing to do with islam. In arabic culture for generations going way back it was practiced by tribes. There is no honor in killing. It's ignorant backward societies that accept it and pretend it has something to do with islam. They are nothing but murderers.  

  3. Domestic violence is always ugly. But please keep in mind that the media focuses on a few incidents in Muslim families for a political reason. There is actually a huge amount of domestic violence in Christian society and Israel has the highest rate of wife murders in the world. Israeli war veterans are extremely unbalanced emotionally apparently.

  4. .....well, over the last century Muslims (Islam) has proven the vast contradiction within the realm of the Islamic faith

    ....the many ardent worshipers of Islam have expressed their religious faith through many acts of heinous violence

    ....honor killings are still very much alive and well in muslim countries

    ...hysteria and dillusional reactives also pervade the social mileu of EVERY muslim group

    .....Islam denies culpability for the followers of the faith

    ....the followers claim their heinous crimes are 'allowable' and 'completly logical' based upon the writings of their religious teachers

    .....so if you live within the reprisal zone of muslims, you also incur the potential for such 'honor killing' (as well as job opportunites, such as martyr)

    ...the culpability incurred by Isalm is the overwhelming accumulation of facts that substantiate repeated mass murder condoned by Islam, perpetrated by followers of Islam, and completly ignored by Isalm

    .....the contradiction

    ...Isalm reacts strongly to many issues

    ....Islam does not react at all to car-bombings

    ....Islam does not attempt to prevent car-bombings carried out in the name of Islam

    ....1000's of car-bombings occur in the name of Islam

    ....Islam comfortably and safely ignores the connection

    ....thence, the Ayatollah does not cause more disenfranchisments of connected families....(that's like ex-communication from their business world)

  5. if prophet mohommad had poetess asma bint marwan murdered whats wrong with muslim men doing the same to other women?

  6. Killing for Allah is ok.

    Killing for honour is not ok.

    Killing to defend Allah's honour against people like Dutch film makers and Danish cartoonists seems ok for some and not ok for others.

  7. You have to understand, its a culture thing, not religion. It is the Arab Muslim mindset to protect their honor. Arabs are all about pride and family, and they do it so they will not be shamed.

    Islam is a peaceful religion and does not condone killing. The muslims that do this are not really muslims. If they were, they would know this is wrong and against our religion.

    Its just all about culture and tradition...

  8. this is all culture and has nothing to do with islam.  As you are still a new Muslim you may not yet understand the full force and influence that negative cultural aspects have on Muslims.  There is no such thing as an honor killing in islam because first and foremost we are not allowed to take the law into our hands.  Secondly, almost always these crimes are based on rumors and not on fact and the idiot family members (male) cannot take it so they prefer to kill the girl than to actually go through the process of finding out the truth.  

  9. Of course I don't, it's haram!

    This happens all over the world. It's a product of ignorance and culture unfortunately.

    Mabrook on your conversion! You converted in the same age as I did 4 years ago, ah the memories. :)


  10. The example you have used about the rape victim is a common misconception.

    The penalty was for being with unrelated males not because she was raped.

    Though I still find that to be wrong, the truth is she wasnt penalized for being raped.

    As for honour killings, they seem to be rather prominent amongst Muslim families though I have heard that its cultural and not religious. But perhaps the religion allows for such interpretation that people can have such twisted beliefs.

    Mind you there are other types of honour killings amongst non-Muslims as well but to me it seems as if thats a smaller proportion.

  11. its more of an individual/cultural act,and not authorized by Glorious Quran.Glorious Quran condemns any kind of killing unless there is war,otherwise NO KILLING only when at war killing is allowed


  12. for god's sake, i dont agree with honor killing or whatever those arabs customs about killing women. it is'nt right thing to do cuz in quran it is haram to kill your own daughter no matter how bad she is or what kind of sin she did. my family never agree or believe it, although we arent from middle east. remember the story of http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...

    i think the father had done a great sin than his daughter for he murdered his own child just because she feel in love with a person who is different, from her race etc. but i do believe not all of muslims does except those of shia faith etc. i am always against it, and will be,and perhaps someday i will make speech and speak out for this honor killing, or should i say wrong doing. its is simply not right even though i am muslim and i and my family takes our faith seriously. and by the it is a mere arabic tradition, that started before islam reached the nation, so it is haram and the quran did say no to.

  13. My dear sister salam for you. Yes I do believe in honour killing that is killing non muslim who attacked muslims and insulted Islam as true religion.In the Qur'an Allah (God) has stated clearly that Jesus (Isa Al Masih)was not the son of God because Allah has no son.Holy spirit was Gabriel(Jibril) angel and Jesus was not killed on the crusade

    .Jesus was saved by Allah and he was replaced by someone whose apperance just like Jesus.

    A girl who was raped  with strong evidence in Islam will not be stoned ,because it was not her fault.Islam and its good followers hate violence because Islam is a peaceful religion.We make war with the enemies if we were attacked firstly by them just like in Iraq and also in Afghanistan,the invaders come from foreign countries

  14. Sister!  Your view that if a girl is raped, she can be stoned is not correct.  Such a girl will not be stoned.  Islam stoning to death to the married man and women who engage in adultery.  If one of them or both of them are unmarried (the act is fornication) they will be given 100 stripes--no stoning to death.

    Even Ekuthanasia or mercy killing is prohibited in Islam.  Ekuthanasia means to bring about a mercifully easy and painless death for persons suffering from an incurable and painful disease.  Its defenders in modern medical practice, define their so-called mercy-king as the termination of human life by painless means for the purpose of ending severe physical suffering.  The fact is, euthanasia is not a merciful release but a murder.  It is an act of murder and it is prohibited in Islam.

  15. No

    It is Haram

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

  16. As you said Islam does not condone nor encourage this.  No a raped girl can not be stoned, what aaarrree you talking about.  

    These problems with honor killings (just the name is stupid) is cultural and happens all over the world.  It is not just some Muslims who do this.  

  17. it has nothing to do with Islam.

    it's an Arabic tradition.

  18. The closest Islam gets to an "honor killing" is sacrificing an animal during Ramadan. We don't kill or harm unless its in a war. We do not believe in "honor killings" even though Islam-haters consider otherwise.

    Regarding the girl, if she is raped, the RAPIST is the one that's supposed to be punished. Stuff like that is only cultural and made up by Saudi Arabia & Iran, no where else, especially not in Iraq, where we have more freedom.

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    Those "muslims" that participate in "killing in the name of Allah" are not Muslims; they just use the religion as a scapegoat to make others look bad.

    Neither the Taliban nor Al-Qaida are Muslims; more like atheists to me.

  19. Every religion has fanatics. Honor killings are a tradition, not an Islamic rule or anything. Islamically, an honor killer should be sentenced to death along with the rapist.

    @Raw---I see u love denouncing Saudis. Have u ever lived in Saudi Arabia? I do, and I tell u, most Saudis don't even know what honor killings are. It's something which comes from Asian countries.

  20. Killing  is haram and any one who kills another human being will be burned in h**l life  even his honor is involved.    Allah will not forgive a killer   unless he kills for his own defence and defence of his family, and his country.  We are allowed to kill in wars fighting against the enemies who wish to kill us and occupy our lands and throw us out of our homes.

  21. HaHaHa...nooooo...of course Islam doesn't condone honor killing. Most Muslims don't! But then...why are most honor killings committed by Muslims? Muslims don't condone terrorism either...yet most terrorists just happen to be Muslims. Interesting isn't it?????? Muslims are just a bunch of loveable scamps who only wish to serve Allah...HAHAHAHA (how silly some people are).

    The children and Westerners here who believe they are Muslim will also tell you that Islam is against pedophilia and that Muhommad was a great man...but, read this recent Islamic ruling:

    <BEGIN>

    Question 1809:

    After the permanent committee for the scientific research and fatwahs (religious decrees) reviewed the question forwarded by the grand scholar of the committee with reference number 1809 issued on 3/5/1453 and 7/5/1421 (Islamic calendar)

    Question: ‘It has become widespread these days, and especially during weddings, the habit of mufa’khathat of the children. (mufa’khathat - literally translated, it means “placing between the thighs” which means placing the male member between the thighs of a child).

    What is the opinion of scholars, knowing full well that the prophet, the peace of Allah be upon him, also practiced the “thighing” of Aisha - the mother of believers - may Allah be pleased with her ?

    Answer: After studying the issue, the committee has answered as follows:

    As for the prophet, his thighing his fiancée Aisha when she was six years of age and not able to consummate the relationship was due to her small age. That is why the Prophet used to place his male member between her thighs and massage it, as the prophet had control of his male member not like other men.

    <END>

    And for this you want to worship the anti-Christ? Why? Because it's cooool to do so? Jesus "loved the little children", but not in the manner that Muhommad "Loved" them. Jesus is Christ...Muhommad is anti-Christ! YHWH is God...Allah is Satan.

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