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Do you believe in global warming? Why or Why not?

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Do you believe in global warming? Why or Why not?

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  1. The theory of man-made global warming is false.  Anyone who believes otherwise has not investigated the evidence or is purposely remaining ignorant to the legitimate opposition to global warming.  I have given up an one and a half hours to watch “An Inconvenient Truth” so I ask you to do the same and watch the movie detailing the opposition.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...  

    Another general resource: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warm...

    CO2 is not causing the globe to warm the opposite is true, the warming is increasing the atmospheric CO2.  When the world heats it gradually increases the temperature of the oceans which serve as the largest CO2 sink.  As the oceans heat up they release CO2 which is stored in them.  The information comes from the same data Al Gore uses, the temperature always goes up before the concentration of CO2 goes up.

    http://www.lavoisier.com.au/papers/artic...

    CO2 makes up only .03% of our atmosphere.  Water vapor, another greenhouse gas, makes up 1-4% of our atmosphere, this gas is acknowledged to be the main greenhouse gas.  All human activities combined contribute only 6 Gigatons of CO2 to the atmosphere each year.  Animals, through respiration, decomposition, etc contribute 150 Gigatons of CO2 to the atmosphere.  So humans contribute only a small amount of CO2 to the atmosphere which is already in very small concentrations in the atmosphere.

    http://oco.jpl.nasa.gov/science.html This is where my data came from, it is an interesting site, it displays the same graphics as Al Gore in his movie but it tells how low the human contribution is.  So Al Gore is using the same data but coming to a different conclusion, who do you want to believe a politician with no scientific training or the NASA CO2 laboratory, a group of scientists who spend their entire careers studying CO2.

    We know the greenhouse effect is real it is a necessary effect to keep our planet at a habitable temperature.  However if our current warming is due to greenhouse gasses it would cause warming in the troposphere , but the troposphere is actually getting cooler.

    http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/temperature... That points to other explanations to our current warming.

    So what is causing our current warming, it is the sun.

    http://web.dmi.dk/solar-terrestrial/spac...

    http://www.aip.org/enews/physnews/2003/s...

    http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/06...

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/200...

    http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/...

    The fact that only the earth’s surface is warming points to direct heating from the sun rather than heating due to greenhouse gasses.  Also other planets in our solar system are warming pointing to a common cause of warming, that common cause being the sun.

    http://www.livescience.com/environment/0...

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/...

    http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/sola...

    http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/sola...

    The global warming crowd says our glaciers are melting and animals will suffer this is another false claim.

    http://www.co2science.org/scripts/CO2Sci...

    http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA235.htm...

    http://www.worldclimatereport.com/

    The global warming crowd also claims a scientific consensus on the issue, this is wrong in two ways.  One, there is no consensus, this is a false claim to make you believe in global warming by suppressing the opposition.  http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p36.htm

    Second, even if there was a consensus it would mean nothing, science is not politics, you don’t vote on theories to determine their legitimacy.

    Here’s 21 pages of websites that disagree with global warming.

    http://www.climatechangedebate.org/docum...

    The thought that the only scientists who disagree with global warming are paid by oil companies is simply a stupid statement with no reality.  This is the most illogical argument by people in support of global warming.  Aside from being completely false it begs another question: Who pays global warming supporters?  The answer is big environmental agencies that make millions off of global warming each year by teaching, publishing books, and selling environmentally clean products.  

    The IPCC is the main supporter of global warming, their statements are defended blindly by people who don’t want to admit that global warming is not real.  People will claim that they took into account natural sources of CO2, they didn’t.  Take a look for yourself:

    http://www.ipcc.ch/activity/srccs/index....  That is the latest IPCC report, read the entire report, do a search of the documents, there is absolutely no mention of natural sources of CO2.  The natural sources have been completely ignored.  Also people will claim that the IPCC took the sun into account in their report, this is not entirely correct, while the sun is mentioned the report it’s effects have not been accurately represented.

    http://www.john-daly.com/forcing/moderr....  The IPCC did not take into account the Svensmark factor.  This would greatly reduce the effect of solar radiation on the earth.  Look back up to the solar resources to see the effect of the sun correctly represented.

    Also allegations have been by IPCC scientists who disagreed with the IPCC statements.  They say that their research was censored or taken out of the IPCC report.  This is not the first time the IPCC has lied, they forged the famous “hockey stick” graph, which later resulted in a reissuing of the IPCC report.

    Here’s another source that disagrees with the IPCC: http://rpc.senate.gov/_files/Sept1004Glo...

    And another: http://www.sepp.org/Archive/NewSEPP/ipcc...

    And another: http://www.john-daly.com/guests/un_ipcc....

    Quotes form politicians, CEO’s, and others are not proof of global warming, they issue these statements to get votes and customers.  Scientists are able to get published and get time on the media by supporting global warming.  The IPCC continually lies and misrepresents data so they keep their jobs.  

    In regards to the precautionary principle that says we can only help if we switch over to alternative energy, this idea is not correct.  While this may seem legitimate it only helps the first world, third world countries can not afford to switch to the more expensive energy options.  Also the US currently spends 4 billion dollars a year on global warming research which could be better spent on research for disease or to fight poverty.  For an excellent example of how the precautionary principle is harmful you do not need to look further than DDT.  This pesticide was cheap and incredibly effective but it was banned because of it harmful effects on egg shells.  Now thousands of people die every year in third world countries because of malaria, a disease that could be easily controlled with DDT.

    I hope anyone who believes in global warming they will take a look at the resources I provided.  These resources should convince you that global warming is not man-made, it is caused by cycles in the earths climate.  If you are not convinced I hope you at least take a new look at global warming as an unproven idea.  Remember that global warming is big business for anyone who aligns themselves with it.

    I could not go this entire post without mentioning global cooling.  In the 1970’s it was claimed that there was a consensus on the fact that the world was headed into an ice age.  We have seen once before how damaging a false claim about our climate change can be to our world.  Most of the global warming crowd does not want you to know about this scare because it is so similar to the scare today.  Government panels were formed and claimed the world was headed to an ice age, evidence poured in supporting the claim, a consensus was claimed, then the whole issue just faded away.  That is what will happen with the false scare of global warming.


  2. Here is a speech given by Tim Ball, one of the first people to study the history of climate change.  It is one of the best in that it describes what is wrong with the science of climate change.

    http://www.fcpp.org/main/media_file_wm.p...

    Make sure you also download the powerpoint slides to view the graphs.

  3. nope.  we know polar ice caps are melting yes, but on the other hand we know that ice is thickening in other spots.

    The weather in some spots of the earth is definitely changing, which could and probably will cause climate change every were else.  I'm just not convinced its caused by man kind.  We do have evidence of massive changes in climate change in the past, that seem to be natural.  It was violent, but still, natural.

    I wouldn't count out that its man made, but I'm just not willing to call it a definite thing.

  4. FACT OR FICTION

    FICTION

    for many North Americans ,but they are used to fiction and feel more comfortable with fairytales instead of the truth,

    Many blindly believe that our fate is in Gods hands ,and their focus is on the beautifull heaven that awaits ,they are not to concerned with the world their children will inherrit

    whilst others wish to enjoy an Earthly paradise ,with out having to die first,they care what happens here and want to help the planet

    there may come a time that for the sake of our survival the two views will be seperated in to Enemies and friends of the planet

    World leaders are not concerned with the well being of the masses ,on the contrary .it was stated at a conference in Copenhagen,in 1998,by Kissinger, that the Agenda demanded a decrease in the world population of 60%,and you cannot achieve this if you start saving everybody.

    scientists who work for politicians ,get paid by these politicians and they have downplayed the facts because solutions are expensive and means change and change effects many peoples incomes,and upsets profit margins,so most of the world is kept in the dark of the real things that are going on.for political and economic reasons

    HOWEVER CLIMATE CHANGE IS FACT FOR MILLIONS

    Global warming is a very complex collection of many effects

    this text only covers some aspects of global warming mainly man made desertification

    industrial contamination ,the contaminating effects of the cities ,is another story

    there are natural cycles in the planets life

    but mans existance has its effects,and this is increasing with overpopulation,putting strains on Natural resources and increasing contaminations as well as destructions of essential componants the ensure living conditions for all life forms

    in North Africa,India,Mexico ,millions of people are effected by land loss and desertification and some have died as a result

    in china, thousands of what used to be farmers are running for their lives from the dust storms that have burried their towns and turned their lands into dessert,

    ,the Sahara is growing by 7 kilometers a year

    and all of the desserts we know are a results of mans actions ,and they are increasing ,not getting less ,in the dinosaurs days ,there were very few desserts.

    collectively this planet is drying up because of bad farming practices like,over grazing and fertilizers,

    each degree rise in temperature means 10%crop loss

    and there is less and less water (because of deforestation),to irrigate this production ,

    and there are less and less farmers to do it..

    and there are 70 million more peole every year that have to eat and drink and wash

    who are overpumping deep carbon aquifiers

    who are plowing more and more unstable lands because they have lost so many million hectares to desertification ,

    because of bad farming practises ,such as using fertilizers and heavy machinary or over grazing

    RISING SEAS

    The northpole is melting ,and we will know it without ice in our life times.

    this does not affect the sea level because it is ice that is already in the water.but the melting ice from Green land and the south pole ,are another matter.

    http://www.greenpeace.org/international/...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/natur...

    if forrest are being exchanged for ashalt,concrete and desserts

    what is gonna keep this planet habitable for us

    We as humanity can behave in a less stressful manner as far as the Environment is concerned ,but it will mean global co operation between all countries ,and taking into account human nature and the world politics ,it is unlikely that this will happen, Source(s) Lester E Brown is the director and founder of the global institute of Environment in the United states .he has compiled a report based on all the satalite information available from NASA,and all the information that has

    come from Universities and American embassies WORLD WIDE ,

    his little book--a planet under stress , Plan B has been trans lated into many languages and won the best book award in 2003

  5. Yes of course.  Our Earth goes through natural cycles.  Sometimes it is a warming cycle.  This is what the phase of our planet is in right now.  Has been for a very very very long time.  Eventually there will be a global cooling like there was in the previous "Ice Age".  

    As far as us causing what some attribute all our problems too.  No it is BS. Look at Al Gore.  Hahaha. What a joke.

  6. Global warming is a lie . The green house gas information does not support the effect. The green house gas  total is only 1.1% of our total air. The plants and photosynthesis is taking care of the CO2 . Methane is a joke where is it ,go measure it.

  7. atlantaboi3 is correct. Don't listen to AL Gores BS . Drive your SUV and f**t all you want. We are not the cause of it

  8. The Earth is warming yes, do we know why no...

  9. It's not a question of "belief".  This is science and it's a question of data.

    "I wasn’t convinced by a person or any interest group—it was the data that got me. I was utterly convinced of this connection between the burning of fossil fuels and climate change. And I was convinced that if we didn’t do something about this, we would be in deep trouble.”

    Vice Admiral Richard H. Truly, USN (Ret.)

    Former NASA Administrator, Shuttle Astronaut and the first Commander of the Naval Space Command

    These are summaries of the mountain of peer reviewed and verified data that convinced Admiral Truly.  Short and long.

    http://www.globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Ima...

    http://www.ipcc.ch/SPM2feb07.pdf

    There's a lot less controversy about this is the real world than there is on Yahoo answers:

    http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/a...

    And vastly less controversy in the scientific community than you might guess from the few skeptics talked about here:

    http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/fu...

    "There's a better scientific consensus on this [climate change] than on any issue I know - except maybe Newton's second law of dynamics.  Global warming is almost a no-brainer at this point,You really can't find intelligent, quantitative arguments to make it go away."

    Jerry Mahlman, NOAA

    The swindle movie (and its' "science") is wrong.

    "The science might be bunkum, the research discredited. But all that counts for Channel 4 is generating controversy."  

    http://environment.guardian.co.uk/climat...

    I'll spare you several more similar references.  But the fact is that even Channel 4 doesn't believe that movie.  On their web page for the movie, they say "Confused now?  Ask an expert."  The question goes to a respected mainstream scientist who says the cause is mostly us.

    Good websites for more info:

    http://profend.com/global-warming/

    http://www.realclimate.org

    "climate science from climate scientists"

  10. Global warming and cooling cycles are facts that cannot be denied. I do not believe that we humans have contributed significantly to any warming or cooling cycle now in process. We and all our usage of trapped CO2 are gnats on  the cosmic scale. No one even know for certain what affects are due to the change cycles of solar poles or even the movement of our poles and even one large volcanic eruption is more disruptive than anything mankind could do in all its history. The global warming/scare politicians are simply wrong and basing their dire prognostications upon pseudo-science.

    That said, I do wish we would preserve our environment better.

  11. The earth is definitely getting warmer.  

    Looking at temperatures that have been recorded worldwide in the late 1800's, it's clear that the earth is in fact getting warmer.  Moreover, the recent melting of millenia old glaciers, thawing of permafrost, breaking off of 12,000 year old portions of Antarctica all clearly show the earth is currently warmer than its been in over 12,000 years.  

    The question is whether or not this warming is due to human activity.  This question is difficult to prove, but growing evidence says " yes", human industrial activity is indeed the culprit.  

    What we do know is that human activity has resulted in increased quantities of known greenhouse gases being released.  From this it seems logical to conclude that these gases are at least partially responsible for warming the planet.  We also know that last century the planet was at what theoretically should have been the peak and subsequent decline of a several thousand year warming trend.  The fact that the earth has started warming again when we should instead be heading into another ice age (based upon geological cycles over the past several 100,000 years) suggests that something has happened to change the earth's warming/cooling cycle.  

    The current conscensus within the scientific community is that these factors, along with other data, show that global warming is the result of human activity.

  12. I beleive that a large part of the current warming is attributable to human activities.  Putting all the arguments to one side the reasons for this are quite simple - we know that greenhouse gases warm the planet, we know that we are contributing far more greenhouse gases than nature can handle and we know the world is warming and that it's warming much faster than has ever before occured.

    When you study greenhouse gas levels, human activities and rising temperatures there's a perfect correlation between them.  It would be both foolish and naive to claim that we are not having an effect on our climate.

    I think it's fair to say that almost no-one with any knowledge of global warming denies it's happening.  The knowledgeable skeptics aren't questioning whether global warming is happening but are questioning some of the science behind the conclusions that it's happening.

    For 23 years I've been investigating all apsects of global warming and cooling - both the natural and human factors.  Knowing what I do now there's only one conclusion I can come to and that is the humans are having a significant impact on the world's climate.

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